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    4 months ago

    the problem is that they’re not in control of the democratic party; the capitulators are.

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        4 months ago

        which means that they will not give progressives control of the party.

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            4 months ago

            so why advocate voting for progressive democrats when moderate democrats will not allow any progressive members to control the democrat party?

            you’re just going to end up w a bernie, aoc, omar, etc. situation where they’re not given enough control to change anything the democratic party’s priorities; but trotted out like show ponys to convince progressives to vote for the democrats anyways.

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              so why advocate voting for progressive democrats when moderate democrats will not allow any progressive members to control the democrat party?

              Because the centrist wing has lost all credibility and we’re seeing their power to block progressives waning.

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                we’re seeing their power to block progressives waning

                do you have any evidence for this?

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                  4 months ago

                  Mamdani’s a good proof of concept. The party brought everything down it could to ratfuck him, before and after the primaries, and failed. We just had a progressive win in New Jersey. Another in Fort Worth.

                  Decisively in all cases.

                  That last one shows the centrist “we need to run centrists to win in conservative districts” line to be so much bullshit.

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                    4 months ago

                    that is definitely a litmus test for where democratic voters heads are at, but that’s also definitely not control of party.

                    see schumer’s mission statement of protecting isreal at all costs to understand where the democratic party leadership’s heads are at despite bernie actually having a say in it.