• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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      5 months ago

      It’s also what Isaac Bashevis Singer, Jewish Holocaust survivor did.

      “What do they know-all these scholars, all these philosophers, all the leaders of the world - about such as you? They have convinced themselves that man, the worst transgressor of all the species, is the crown of creation. All other creatures were created merely to provide him with food, pelts, to be tormented, exterminated. In relation to them, all people are Nazis; for the animals it is an eternal Treblinka.”

      A Holocaust survivor is calling people like you Nazis. Stop and think. Take responsibility. Stop reacting, stop defending, and use your head to tell right from wrong.

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        5 months ago

        the Holocaust was bad, in part, because it treated people like animals. his opinion isn’t well reasoned moral philosophy.

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          Treating people like animals is only bad because you’re arbitrarily presupposing that animals are worthy of lesser treatment. You do understand that, right?
          And like, what’s your well-reasoned moral philosophical justification as to why it’s okay to kill sentient beings that don’t want to be killed, and why does it distinguish between humans and other animals???

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            5 months ago

            beings that don’t want to be killed

            there isn’t proof nonhuman animals understand personal mortality.

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              What a solipsistic take. By the same token, there’s no way that you can prove to me that you understand personal mortality. If, for the sake of argument, I were to point a loaded firearm at you and you were to attack me, attempt to flee, beg for your life, whatever, there’s no way you could prove to me that your actions are motivated by a subjective will to not die: for all I know you might just be acting very convincingly like someone who understands mortality without actually having any interiority whatsoever.
              However, there is social utility in assuming that others are capable of understanding abstract concepts when they perform actions in accordance with such an understanding. And from the fact that most animals will try to avoid things that they can reasonably understand will cause them death (natural predators, environmental hazards, anything that has caused them injury), we can likewise extrapolate that they don’t want to die.