Edit:

The discussion here has managed to sway me, especially when someone wrote this:

Being fried in a pan, the fire is starting to look comfortable?

That’s exactly what the delusion was. From a blend of hallucinating the content of another metaphor (the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence), for a little while there I actually did wonder if the dry flames would’ve been less agonizing than being entirely submerged in this boiling oil. But it’s not better. Plainly.

Furthermore I don’t need to believe US propaganda in order to be cognizant of China’s administrative and governmental shortfalls. Even if I didn’t have any information telling me how “bad” China is, why would I trust any of the propaganda about how “good” it is? I don’t have reliable information to build a conclusion upon either way.

But at this stage I’m no longer reflexively and mindlessly defaulting to “CHINA BAD”.

even though people get real mad at me for questioning my indoctrination, i think questioning it has been a largely constructive experience.

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… huh.

man.

hate to state what some might consider obvious, but this is actually a novel thought for a critter like me–something that has been raised entirely immersed in bullshit propaganda for its entire life…

but uh, wow, a lot of the propaganda I’ve had shoveled down my gullet all along has just been straight up false, hasn’t it.

China was never the ‘bad guy’…

They are literally upstaging the united states in every way. Quite possibly they have been for a long time and I’m only just now capable of seeing it since the illusion of civil rights and humane decency has gone up in smoke here in the US what with the government’s quiet repressive acts now becoming VERY VERY LOUD. >.<

If China even is sending squads of state sponsored domestic terrorist masked goons to murder their own civilians like the US federal government is, people either aren’t making a lot of noise about it or their media control apparatus has kept a lid on it better than the US has.

…

I would’ve been sarcastic about that in the past but now I am honestly and truthfully of an open mind here for possibly the first time in my life. I had believed my mind was open in the past but there are some presuppositions that have just … suddenly stopped holding water.

If China really is better than the United States in every metric, I sure hope more americans will realize it sooner rather than later. I’m still gathering information, though.

Damn. I remember a time when I actually believed that ‘social credit system’ horseshit. Now I know that there was only ever ONE municipality that tried to do with it what the anti-china propaganda implied and they were punished for it by the national government because it was a stupid thing to do, and that otherwise ‘social credit’ was only ever proposed as an accountability system for public officials, not for personal individuals just living their every day lives.

Kinda expecting people will come out of the woodwork on here to dunk on me for my ignorance, though, one way or another ._.

since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country,

This is not a moral standing by China, it’s 100% pragmatic deeming Israel a high risk area.
There is no reason to call China “based” or any other such crazy comments we see here.

Wow I rarely say this about Chinese government but based.

They’re just reading the room. They’re not doing it because they think israel is bad, they’re doing it because it’s economically disastrous to do so. Within the next few years the US will be in the same position if it keeps going the way it is. We’ll be too “high risk.”