The whole idea of putting something in your body that AI came up with is unnerving, but this microfluid jet stream method of injection is kind of blowing my mind.

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    I assure you that they did not use LLM transformers to develop the vaccine. Pharmaceuticals have been using neural networks for years now to accelerate the process of drug discovery and it does amazing things, but it’s not because they’re taking text from medical journals and guessing what the most likely next token should be.

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        I saw someone compare the word AI to the word vehicle. A truck, train, bicycle, submarine, and spaceship are all vehicles, but are very different things. AI can be LLMs, analytic AI, or just a bunch of if functions chained together.

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            Most people still don’t know anything about AI, whether it be llm based or otherwise; they just think it’s magical, knows everything, and they should use it for absolutely anything without any discernment.

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            The annoy thing is that many of those same people now act like experts about it. Much like OP and some of the commenters understanding of vaccine development. They seem to think that a liquid was dispensed from a giant, gas powered “AI” and was put into a syringe without further investigation.

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      I’ve done a bit of work on this front a few years ago. We had a number of simulators that can tell you the likelihood that something binds to a specific protein, and you’re basically just searching through all possible compounds to find things that bind to a target while minimizing their interactions with other proteins that would be known to cause problems in the human body. When we find promising candidates, we send them off to a lab to synthesize and test in vitro.

      This kind of search problem isn’t exactly easy to automate mainly because naive solutions are very expensive. It’s never been a problem of outputting nonsense. The automations use the same evaluation metrics as human researchers.

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      the low likelihood of LLM being involved in any active pharmaceutical R&D efforts is enough for me to wager

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    So we lump a lot of stuff under the term AI, but prior to ChatGPT, we would have been talking about “machine learning” coming up with this solution.

    I really hate the way the AI companies have gone about their business, but machine learning certainly has its proven uses.

    I think things like this - that humans probably could have invented on our own, just more slowly without the machine - are just about the perfect application of the technology. It’s being used as a tool that helps humans, not a machine that replaces us.

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    Jet injections ahve been around a long time. This suggests that not all vaccines can use jet injectors.

    There is so much mis information about AI, my organization has used AI for at least 20 years.

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      Yep, this isn’t LLM. This is some proprietary “DIOSynVax computational pipeline”.

      Annoying that everyone reads this and thinks it’s, “hey chatgpt make me a vaccine. Do not hallucinate”

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        Annoying that everyone reads this and thinks it’s, “hey chatgpt make me a vaccine. Do not hallucinate”

        Virtually no one thinks that. Inventing opponents shows a real lack of security in your argument.

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      The new injectors use lasers instead of springs and plungers, so it’s a brand new version of a discontinued tech.

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        I wouldn’t say nobody uses it. In the nineties we had the option to take a vaccine (don’t know which one. DPT? variola?) through that pistol thing or a regular needle. That thing hurts more, and leaves a bigger mark/scar than the needle. But it’s faster as vaccination teams don’t need to spend time discarding sharps. It was a stream of crying kids returning to class.

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        I was reading a scientific paper on Jet Injection and noticed that part :

        Subsequent bench studies of it and the more common Ped-O-Jet® indicated that their nozzles could become contaminated with hepatitis B virus and pose a risk for transmission

        Ped-O-Jet®

        Did they seriously choose that name for their product? Was that an Epstein business? WTF.

        For anyone interested here is the full study I was reading and is very interesting :

        https://siamlotus.com/pubs/Weniger-GlobVacForum-Montreux-HighSpeedJetInjectors-abs.pdf

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          Pediatrics, Pedialite, and pedophile all share the same Greek root pais meaning “child”. The Ped-O-Jet was developed and named in the 1960s, decades before pedophiles became so prominent in our cultural consciousness.

          Back then nobody would bat an eye at that name.

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      The communicator already is and HAL that everyone thought would take 200 years is here now. The science fiction future we dreamed about as children has become a self fulfilling prophecy. For good or bad we are in it now, right up to our necks.