Because it is relevant:
Unemployed individuals are roughly 60% to 87% more likely to die by suicide compared to employed peers, with some studies estimating that up to 1 in 10 global suicides are directly attributable to labor underutilization (job loss or underemployment).
A study using data from 175 countries between 1991 and 2017 showed that for every 1% increase in unemployment, there was a 2–3% increase in suicide rates in those aged 30–59 years, suggesting that if such an increase in unemployment could be prevented then so would the corresponding increase in suicides.
Yes. And let it come. When legislation fails, this is what comes next. The world needs a proper reset for the oligarchy.
Sure, why not?
There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.
This is a perfect example of why our whole global economic system is so backwards. When you think about it for more than 2 seconds, an unemployment crisis makes no sense, if we have more laborers than we have jobs, that means all the work is getting done, that should be a good thing. But instead we’ve tied individual worth to our capacity to create value for shareholders.
Some societies have tied basic needs like health care and housing to employment so people will fight over scraps.
Even some countries that had a decent safety net have had it eroded over time. Forget UBI, i suspect we are heading back to poor houses and people being jailed for stealing loaves of bread. Empathy and social cohesiveness have been under attack for years and it’s showing everywhere. People are being encouraged to punch down and many are happy to comply.
All the people need is bread and circuses
Oh it’ll be a circus alright
No work --> no money --> no bread, I think that’s what it’s getting at
It will only be a problem for the countries with no social safety net and no collectivist culture. So RIP America.
I am all for the rule of law and a civil peaceful society working for the common good. Big believer in social democracy as the best compromise we have found so far. But the truth is it’s been gutted and attacked. Democracy is under assault. Our society is under assault and being divided and conquered.
AI in this context really just a proxy for the worst abuses of capitalism. It’s stealing the fruits of human labour for the benefit of the few and trying to wind back the pay and conditions we have fought to enjoy. The LLMs themselves are a neutral thing and the change they bring is real and difficult but not the end of the world. People do need to wake the fuck up though. The irregularities of AI financing are possibly going to bring about a massive financial crash that will wipe out a lot of people’s savings, crash the economy and create huge hardship. This time we need to insist on justice and consequences and we need the victims to be protected, not the criminals.
That would assume that AI is truly capable of making a lot of jobs obsolete… but from my current perspective, that premise is nothing more than a marketing gimmick used by AI companies.
But the important part is that idiotic managers and shareholders buy it. Although they might have caused their own bankruptcy, people has lost their job, and the demand of labour is not even staying the same. It has caused unemployment after all.
Many of those jobs lost to AI were going away anyway. AI is just the excuse management can use with less backlash currently. They have a bogeyman so they’re gonna use it.
The AI bubble bursting is capable of destroying a bunch of jobs simply by wrecking the economy.
You really only need to replace 10% of jobs. There are talks of replacing software devs with AI. And developing is one of the more complex tasks in office environment. Imagine 10% of the country rioting. Thats suddendly millions of people. You dont have sufficient police or prisons to handle that.
During the great depression 1/4 of working Americans were without jobs. This lasted for several years. The average earnings fell by 40% for families.
Guess what? No revolution.
So unless we are looking at more than a quarter of the jobs being replaced it isn’t going to make any changes at all honestly.
I’m not sure.
In the past, mass unemployment and poverty and hunger caused violence because young parents had to watch their children suffer. Today, young people aren’t having kids, and by the time some of them do have kids they’re getting too old for explosions of violence.
I expect suicides, isolated mass shootings, and overdoses - the same stuff we’ve been having.
On the other hand young people without children have nothing to lose. And political violence and injustice have become a mechanism to target specific communities. America has very little left to give other than the vicarious cruelty to the manufactured internal enemy. And it’s cheaper than ever to strap ordnance to a quadcopter.
So i imagine that if what’s little left of the social contract is eroded violence could easily explode. Current American leaders are especially bad at de escalating.
You could also argue their lack of children means they have less to lose. Same with their lack of wealth.
There’s a reason the US government threw tons of money at returning soldiers from WWII to start a family and buy a house. You aren’t going to start/join a revolution if it means you might lose your family or house that you’ve invested in and is gaining value.
And the boomers enjoy watching their children suffer. It bUiLdS cHaRaCtEr.
Butlerian Jihad? I’m skeptical.
The “technology” to mentally manipulate and control populations improves as well. PR, advertisment, propaganda, whatever you wanna call it, is getting stronger and stronger. Social media has trained people to act in very predictable patters that are easily exploited.
eventually it will, it will take a long time for the usa because they are still too content.
There’s a conflict index which predicts conflicts based on whether the population is able to feed, house themselves, find a spouse (think cultures with multiple wives) or find a job. In short, civil war is 3 missed meals away. This is espacially dangerous with this new generation not being able to provide for children. Nothing to lose.
That is what history shows tends to happen.
France yes, the US, no.
The arc of history is far longer than the US amd France.
Yes, but wage labor as the dominant form of subsitance and crisis caused by mass unemployment are not as old as france or the US
Why would the type of economy matter? An analysis of historic violent collapses of nations has shown that revolts happen when the average person is unable to feed their family.
Because a peasant revolt over too high taxes/rent or land dispossession looks very different then an uprising of the urban unemployed. The former almost never worked due to the lack of density and coordination and the latter occasionally worked and can lead to a modern revolution.
Also most premodern states didn’t fall because of unrest from below, they mostly fell due to inter-elite conflict and civil wars or external invaders coming and conquering the state. Most states became very good at suppressing any violence from below and it’s only really after the invention of gunpowder that the elites start worrying about popular sentiment.
If all the peasants are starving and can’t feed there families they aren’t going to do well against a well fed well trained professional armored warrior in a field in hand to hand combat. Give that poor sod a gun though and a place in the city to hide and shoot at a soldier then they’ll do a lot better regardless of there physical ability.
So a peasant is going to be far less likely to revolt then an urban worker because they know there chances of winning are near 0. Yeah starving to death sucks but it won’t be worse then getting crucified after the revolt inevitably fails.
https://historycollection.com/20-times-americans-rebelled-against-their-government/
Ahem. The US government has a habit of stamping that shit out but it has happened plenty of times in US history.
LOL that article is a joke.
90% is from a century ago, then some common prison riot or…Puerto Rico.
And of course the scumbags ignore the real resistance of black revolutionaries.
Pathetic.When was the French revolution again? Oh yeah 1794. This comment was a joke to start with and it was a bad one. The French have a history of revolt and they have been a country longer than the US by something like 10 centuries. I get that people want to make fun of the US and our “revolution mentality” or whatever but let’s be real their last revolution happened around the same time the founding of our country happened. It’s not my fault you don’t know history.
What is the date of the French revolution supposed to prove?
That’s probably the entirety of your knowledge on that or any other country.
You clearly don’t know anything about current day France.
‘Rebel against a government’ isn’t necessarily a full blown revolution is it?
The French regularly riot.
I live next to them in Belgium and currently in the 4th day of riots here by…teachers.
They fight and burn shit more than all you put together while living as worms even before a full on fascist government.
No European would eat shit like you all do.You’re weak, subservient pussies who think too much of yourselves and then throw a tantrum when they get some criticism.
Pathetic.Ah. So a troll then. Because clearly either you haven’t been paying attention to any of the protests going on in the US for the last decade, or you’re just insistent on being an asshole regardless of facts. Either way, go away. I do not have the time or the crayons. Especially not if we’re resorting to name calling. I’ll save my best insults for someone worthy of factual information.
LOL Do you think some clown from the banana republic can tell someone me to go away?
You’re as deluded as your orange clown.And your ‘protests’ right.
I’ve seen your interpretative dancing and edgy signs.I’ve been ridiculing that cringefest for quite some time.
Quickly go do some extreme resistance act like changing your avatar or cry online some more, in the true american revolutionary spirit!
And run, what Imagine an american, the most navelstaring, ignorant and uninformed specimens on the planet pretentiously saying I don’t know history.
And then crying when insulted.
Besides the traits mentioned, the main characteristic of americans is certainly hypocrisy.
As proven again here.
And you lack the capacity to insult me, so sit this one out and run away.
Another thing you’re known for in the world.
I want this to be true, but history seems to me to show that most people just tolerate increasingly worse conditions indefinitely. Exploited/oppressed people rising up seems the exception.
Oh? You are a historian then?
I would be very interested in any real studies of job losses due to AI. I believe much of it is a hoax. Companies just use this in their PR communication as the “reason” to let go people. The real deal might be more that there are many companies which want to cut costs as departments always tend to grow but couldn’t fire anybody due to good labor laws - I am excluding explicitly the US here. The AI reason is still accepted as it is relatively new. As soon as regulations step up, and transparency increases it might become public that companies are lying about the let go reasons…just my thoughts here. Have as said not really seen any study around this.
These most recent round of layoffs have nothing to do with AI and everything to do with over hiring. AI is just a convenient excuse.
