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    21 hours ago

    I mean. My general opposition to anyone that self identifies as a Nazi could be defined as “politically motivated” because you know, he’s a politician.

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        21 hours ago

        That would be nice. OF course, I EXPECT Republicans to nominate Nazis.

        When the Democrats do it too you have to kinda wonder what they are trying to achieve.

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            21 hours ago

            I am hoping that people start paying better attention to their local politics so that we can end up with fewer cases where we have one fascist running against another fascist because both parties are funded by the same corporate donors what have an interest in making sure the government remains captured by their interests.

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          20 hours ago

          US Military indoctrinates a young man into a fascist cult.

          Man matures, exits the military, shows genuine remorse, joins anti-war groups and becomes an activist in opposition to the US military’s fascist agenda, and then campaigns for high office on these anti-imperialist principles.

          The sitting Senator and sitting Governor call him a fascist, while continuing to defend the very military that enlisted and promoted him while he had the tattoo.

          Really makes you think.

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            Most of these people who are still stuck on the tattoo can’t believe that you aren’t born with the knowledge innately of what Nazi iconography is.

            I, as someone from a rural red distruct, can honestly say we did not spend much time on WW2 in school. Nazis were bad, atom bomb was bad, einstein was super smart. That was about it.

            We didn’t go over what brain drain is or why it would happen (it’s happening now)

            We didn’t go over that during the era of WW2 that segregation was written into and being written into law (Jim Crow), and that the Nazis themselves learned from how we Americans wrote our cruelty into law, sometimes even being abhored at our level of cruelty.

            And I haven’t watched many movies. Everyone points to the “are we the baddies” meme, and to someone who is not aware, it could just be a symbol that was used in place of a swastika. I, personally, didn’t know it was a totenkopf, or that word, until this controversy. To someone who doesn’t have that knowledge, it’s the equivalent of a decepticon symbol. Are the people that put that on their cars actually secret cybertronians?

            People who are still hanging onto this don’t believe people can change nor do they understand that what might be considered common knowledge online is certainly not known by every person. And most of these people seem to be authoritarian supporters, left, center, and right.

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              17 hours ago

              Most of these people promoting the “secret Nazi” idea also didn’t know what a SS totenkopf was before the story broke. It’s an obscure symbol that looks like a lot of common symbols, not a swastika.

              On the topic of bad history schooling, I don’t think my high school required history classes even made it to WW2. I feel like we covered the period from the pilgrims to the Civil War year after year though.

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              17 hours ago

              I mean, the joke of the Platner race is how much of the national media conversation probably never makes it to the average Maine voting household.

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          21 hours ago

          The woman who started Ladies for Kavanaugh specifically to descredit Christine Blasey Ford’s rape allegations is going out of her way to say that he knew what the tattoo meant - so he almost certainly did not.

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            21 hours ago

            I see. And when he still had it 20 years after being a checks notes mercenary for blackwater?

            Can we maybe do better than a stupid “maybe, maybe not” Nazi next time?

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              20 hours ago

              We are all flawed but maybe we can find someone less flawed, historically makes better decisions and doesn’t outright guzzle the military industrial complex. I smell feterman vibes on him.

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              Graham Platner himself says he was a piece of shit during this period of his life and struggled with PTSD. He’s owned all of it. If you read his Reddit comments too, he does discuss the tattoo in depth and makes it pretty clear that many in the military get these types of tattoos without regard for the historical context, kind of like how people get “punisher” tattoos that work in law enforcement. A lot of these people are black or brown even, but they do it because it’s just a cultural thing in the military. Not saying it’s a good thing that should continue, but just that it doesn’t strictly identify people as Nazis. Actually, a lot of Platner’s comments on Reddit make it clear that he is pretty left, even identifying as a communist and democratic socialist. So, I think the kind of attacks you’re making are very shallow and we just have to look a little deeper to find the real story. Also, we should ask ourselves if we believe in redemption, especially for someone who struggled with PTSD. Also, recognize that letting Collins win is far worse and this race is about far more than whether this guy made some mistakes in the past. Do we want to see more MAGA republicans on the Supreme Court? Do we want a senator that rubber stamps Trump’s agenda? Do we want a senator that will continue to cut taxes for the rich, or one determined to raise them on billionaires?

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                20 hours ago

                its a shame that every argument in favor of Platner needs to be “well, he is better than the Republicans.”

                Some day we are going to get a candidate than is objectively good instead of just being better than the worst possible option.