Do they actually know how the technology works? They will have to scan everything inbound and outbound connections, basically managed devices.
Apple and Google have been given a three-month ultimatum to make it impossible for children to take, share or view nude images on their smartphones, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said on Monday.
The idea is good but even with ai measures minors can easily fake an ai face id verification. I don’t think it’s possible to prevent 100% of cases.
But hopefully if this actual results in the ai tech improving at preventing a over whelming majority of kids faking their ages it would be extremely rare. If not… the amount of fines tech companies might risk facing could potentially bankrupt them if too many kept sneeking past the ai and the gov acted against Google for that. the fines for that type of content isn’t usually a small matter.
Yeah bro we’re totally just scanning everything you send just on the off chance that a child (even though you have none and don’t know any) are takes your phone and uses it to send a dick pic haha no bro don’t worry it’s for their safety haha
And, because Apple cares about us, they can create the Personal Pictures Privacy Pro subscription. A plan where any compromising images are kept out of public dark web Facebook groups, for the low price of $29.95 per month.
Disclaimer: Privacy and security applied by your Personal Pictures Privacy Pro plan will be generated by mid-tier cost effective AI, which itself was trained on the work of the most affordable people who told us they were privacy and security experts.
Not that it’s a good thing but don’t either of these companies have enough leverage to refuse with practically zero consequences?
4chan didn’t care because of the absurd logic and they still haven’t been blocked because they know it would be stupid to do so.
Fucking hell, can we get an age and qualification limit on politicians already?
- Demand <something impossible> to “protect the children” or else we’ll do <even more dystopian surveillance>
- <something impossible> is not done because, well, it’s impossible.
- Do <even more dystopian surveillance> whilst claiming “they gave us no other choice”
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What’s more likely, the prime minister is a clueless idiot who jeeps making blunder after blunder and is too stupid to even consider asking for advice from experts in the field, or he’s paid by terrorists?
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Over reach dressed up as protection for children.
I don’t have kids myself so can’t say I understand how prevalent this problem is, but I can imagine it’s not as big of a problem as what politicians are making out. Certainly not big enough that this can be the answer, even if this legitimately required a solution, such a solution would surely be a last resort.
Easiest solution is awarness. Teach the parents how to monitor their children and how to use parental control. They can offer classes for this.
Its just crazy the amount of stupid laws that poo up in place of covering for poor parenting lol
Technology as a religion strikes again.
We can’t possibly solve this problem the human way, with parent and children awareness and communication.
No, we must solve it with tech. Every problem must be solved with tech !
What a sad world.
If they don’t invent excuses to take tech away from people, for scanning everything , to force us using AIs which tell us the stories they want told, how will they retain power and hide their crimes?
I mean, I’m all for forcing big tech to provide better parental control tools. Because right now they provide the bare minimum that often locks you out of control… and it’s a hassle to set up, maintain and manage.
Take e.g. Apple. To do any parental control you need an Apple account. Reasonable, to this point. But! To actually have any control, you need Apple devices. It isn’t enough to log in through a browser, because you can’t properly set rules, limits, block sites or apps, monitor communications, no, you need an iPhone or iPad or a Mac. You can’t approve access requests if your child wants to go to a non-allowlisted website for e.g. school work.
Oh and if we’re at allowlists and blocklists… no platform at the moment offers ANY kind of automated lists the parents can enable. They need to manually hunt things down and add them. So you either have your kid constantly pinging you to access resources, or you’re constantly reviewing what they’re visiting, searching for, etc., to block inappropriate content. And with how many porn websites there are out there that are specifically CLANDESTINE porn sites that at first appear generic kids games but if you go the right way, you find porn, is staggering.
Oh and one more thing. When are we punishing Google, Meta, etc., for allowing intentionally child-targeted adult themed ads and recommendations? Or did we forget how YouTube allowed incredibly disturbing content in ads and recommendations FOR KIDS (as in, literally injected into playlists meant for kids)?
I feel like all these locks and bars that people apparently believe that they need to be good parents to their children are a little… much? My mother wasn’t an exemplary parent exactly so I wouldn’t go down her route, but I think there’s a case to be made for connecting to your child on a human level, and being their guide rather than their warden.
It makes me think of this hysterical American mindset I’ve bumped into over the years. I’ve got friends who likened me walking a couple of blocks to school as a six year old as child abuse, when they themselves have no idea how to operate a washing machine. I did experience abuse, but it was more of the slammed into the floor and choked out, than going to and from school on my own.
There’s a happy medium to be made, where you can gradually introduce concepts to a child at a level that’s appropriate. Fostering a connection to a child that makes them feel like they can trust in you, and safely go to you when they need it, while also having the freedom to make decisions and grow on their own.
Oh and one more thing. When are we punishing Google, Meta, etc., for allowing intentionally child-targeted adult themed ads and recommendations? Or did we forget how YouTube allowed incredibly disturbing content in ads and recommendations FOR KIDS (as in, literally injected into playlists meant for kids)?
I think this is the far more pressing issue. Capitalism will gladly throw the health of people under the bus if it makes them a quick buck.
The issue is that unfiltered access to the internet is dangerous to kids - and at a certain age, kids do want to discover that side without any parental interference.
Limiting what they can access is not an unhealthy approach. It’s protective, especially nowadays when certain companies (looking at you, Roblox and Meta) will shelter paedos because it’s a financially viable thing to do, repercussions and hurt children be damned.
And there HAS to be a balance between adults having unfettered access to the entirety of the internet, without having to take a selfie every time they want to have a wank or approach any remotely adult topic. It literally takes a single penstroke from the government to categorise a mundane topic “adult” and start listing people - because ID-ing yourself in a “trust us, your data is safe” (except ignore all the data breaches that have already happened!) environment will TOTALLY not lead to issues. I mean what could go wrong when you start collecting the IDs of trans kids reaching out for help because of abuse, gay/bi/lesbian/etc. kids similarly seeking help, suicidal people seeking help, and the list goes on? What problem could there be from that data leaking, right?
This bullshit WILL get reversed the moment a prominent politician’s weird porn browsing habits leak, and I do hope that happens sooner than later. But even when that happens, we need a SANE option to protect children - and that’s by giving the tools to parents, parents whom are mostly overloaded with work, and can’t afford to spend hours a day not interacting with their children but reviewing what they do on the internet.
Yes, being a better parent to your child IS part of that, but so is setting up virtual boundaries.
You say things I agree with, and things I don’t.
I struggle to see the benefit in virtual boundaries, and think it’s better to foster a healthy trusting relationship with one’s child. They’ll encounter bad situations at some point sooner or later, and at that point having shielded them from it in lieu of giving them the tools to deal with it, will have been harmful rather than helpful.
Further, this kind of informational censoring can be used to actively harm people as well. I’ve met many people whose lifelines are their virtual connections to their communities, and had their parents been at all technically inclined these people likely wouldn’t be alive today.
Children won’t spontaneously combust if they encounter pornography. My first exposure happened at around six or seven, same time half of my classmates. Someone found a pornographic card deck in the bushes during recess.
He knows this is impossible lol
That’s what i’m concerned about.
There is a nice german word for such thinking. It’s “Vollkasko-mentalität” - Vollkasko is car insurance which covers everything + mentality.
I also find it funny that any existing smartphones have to work in this system too. I’d like to see the performance of any filter technology on an Android 4 based device that hasn’t seen an update or an replacement battery for decades. And what about feature phones?
I’d say let them catapult themselves back into analog times, it’ll be fun to watch when they realize that filtering that requires opening letters like back in East Germany.
If Apple and Google are sending kids nude images, then their parents are showing them porn by giving them phones.
Let me guess, the solution is age verification for everyone?
because it’s not about the kids, it’s never been about the kids. It’s about collecting/harvesting user data, IDs, and tracking said user.
Age verification for social media isn’t working. why? because people will simply just stop using it. now porn? well they figure everyone gets horny and loves porn so it’s the next best bet to continue to try and collect said data.
We all know the EASIEST solution to this issue, it’s like you set, parental controls. it’s always been the easiest solution. always. but THAT doesn’t collect a users data.
Look i’ll be honest if all these governments and companies just straight up came out and said “ok, we lied, it’s not about the kids we just want your data. that’s it. we want it so we can track it and sell it. we need the easy money.” I’d slightly respect them more for it.
Seriously how about this “you allow us to collect and sell your data and we’ll give you a tax break or a cut of the profits from selling it. we’ll make this an opt in thing” just do that. just be god damn honest.
The end result is further controlling people and surveilling them. Privacy is being murdered in record time.
Soon every person will have a mandatory telescreen in their pocket, linked to their facial recognition in a Palantir run ‘government’ database.
Easy, just send every parent who gives a minor a phone to prison. Problem solved!
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Politicians are usually completely fucking clueless about the nuances of technology, but there’s something in the water in the UK that seems to make their pols reach for the stars in that regard.
I wonder what would happen if those companies simply told the UK government it wasn’t possible, and withdrew from the market?
Good riddance then
