I never denied Mint. definitely recommend it too. Although for gaming I had a lot of issues. I am definitelt not an expert by any means, so I would also put my hat in to say cachyos with kde plasma as the desktop environment is pretty beginner friendly. I understand the arch way is difficult, but in my ignorant (as I dont know linux terminal talk too well) perspective, i think kde plasma on cachyos is a good option to look into at the least. ‘A terrible suggestion’ feels a slight stretch. It isn’t too complicated, im saying this as a beginner

because I don’t eat my momey sir

From Google themselves

"We want you to understand the types of information we collect as you use our services

We collect information to provide better services to all our users — from figuring out basic stuff like which language you speak, to more complex things like which ads you’ll find most useful, the people who matter most to you online, or which YouTube videos you might like. The information Google collects, and how that information is used, depends on how you use our services and how you manage your privacy controls.

Google also collects and uses data that is not associated with your account. For example, when you’re not signed in to a Google Account, we store the information we collect with unique identifiers tied to the browser, application, or device you’re using. This allows us to do things like maintain your preferences across browsing sessions, such as your preferred language or whether to show you more relevant search results or ads based on your activity.

When you’re signed in, we also collect information that we store with your Google Account, which we treat as personal information."

source : https://policies.google.com/privacy?hl=en-US#intro

from Apple themselves

"Personal Data Use for Personalized User Experiences

Unlike other gatekeepers, Apple does not use algorithms or profiling to make any decision that would significantly affect its users without the opportunity for human review. Apple does not receive or use any personal data from third parties for any marketing or advertising purposes. Apple does not track its users. "

source: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/personalized-user-experiences/

Seems Google is very open about using anything possible about their users even when not signed in.

Edit: absolutely hilarious people will argue things, then when presented with facts, they have nothing left but to downvote. That’s the strongest response they have.

See what happens when YOU think?

Oh wow. Seeing your name pop up with a comment like this is gold. You genuinely are smooth brained. You can have this much more of time to let you know youre an idiot. You think from 2005 to 2026 is ONE decade? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes, they do it all in house. is that a surprise to you? Are you under the implication other brands do it all.in house, because I have news for you child.

There is no evidence of apple selling data to third parties or allowing third party apps to be preinstalled on their devices. There is also no carrier locked bootloader on any iPhone.

ANDROID devices (which are maintained by Google) come with an abundance of preinstalled apps thay you can’t see without using a debloater (which current models have had that broken)

So youre arguing Apple has had a better app store considering they are adding support for sideloading where as google is removing it? Interesting switch up.

Anf still, Apple isn’t doing it.

You haven’t shown one fact. You simply posted opinionated responses to my comments.

You sound like a dwindeling smooth brain who just can’t live knowing people think iOS just might be better.

edit:

You had to say ‘guess you dont lile facts’ or whatever while your evidence to data tracking was ‘they both do it as much as they can’ LMFAO Youre a joke. You get no more of my time child.

Again. Showing how absolutely ignorant you are. There isn’t one apple device in my home and there hasn’t been for 7-8 years.

Good attempt at a deflection by trying to go to the insult area of a conversation because the intellectual premise waa to far from your comprehension.

That comment alone tells me you don’t know what you are talking about.

Siri, to this day is a voicd-command assistant.

Read this part slower:

Google is actively developing “screen automation” so Gemini can order food or book rides in apps without you touching the phone. Android 17 is being framed as an “intelligence system” where the assistant does real tasks on your behalf.

You are saying Siri has done that since iOS8? How old are you? was iOS 8 like the oldesr you can think of?

There is also cachyos, they are sooooooo smooth on kde plasma desktop environment.

Fearmongering garbage.

I remember finding out the shape of space isn’t a vast plane of emptiness, but more of an ever growing sphere and that messed me up.

and they are the only OS widely available that isn’t incorporating AI baked into every app so far as android 17 going to allow gemini to control your phone for you and read anything on your device.

All that did is further my point.

we don’t know what apple does with it, we DO however know exactly what google has done and is doing with it. It’s not just them either, its preinstalled apps on flagship devices. iOS doesn’t have hidden meta files on your phone, and as you said, it is more secure.

Have you not seen that google is apparently going to limit the ability for grapheneos?

By YOUR metric #2 IS #1. If you go to grapheneOS, you are trusting that one they won’t enshitify and two that google won’t absolutely wreck the ability to continue.

lineageos is still based on androids kernel. It still has connectivity to google applications.

The control for their hardware and sofware yes. They do it all in house.

between Google and Apple, you genuinely believe iOS tracks and retains more data than Google? Google who is a data collection agency at this point?

Android phones preinstall meta apps as well as google apps. Both heavy trackers. Even on a galaxy ultra device, hidden meta files will remain. You can’t even plug in and remove them passed the 24 models, as samsung and google have worked to explicitly block that.

iOS does not. iOS has apple apps preinstalled. Hell they don’t even come with youtube anymore.

Google is also pushing to block ‘sideloading’ while apple is opening it up.

google is putting gemini ON devices with android 17 that can read your screens and do any task on your phone without your physical interaction, beyond voice.

There is no avenue you can show or explain to me that would paint iOS near google’s anti trust data collection. You are acting as if I said 'iOS solves the whole issue."

If you are implying iOS is anywhere near the control and spyware of google, you don’t know tech at all.

I know this won’t be a popular answer, but with my distaste for google, my switch to linux, the rumored google search revamp later this month turning it completely to AI and THIS? I’m going to go to iOS I believe

i love all the hate google gets

Can’t spell faith without AI. We are all a big hallucination

Are grapheneos and apple the best ways to avoid anything to do with google?