When right-wing people see the statistics that educated people are more likely to be left-wing, they apply the obvious incorrect logic that ‘education is indoctrinating our children’.

The simple fact of the matter is, that in high school, college, and university, I was exposed to people. I played sports with people from every culture, shared classrooms and completed group projects with them. I was taught by people with different cultural backgrounds and I can promise, not a single word of it had anything to do with politics.

Meanwhile, the uneducated are born in their small town, they go to work in their small town, they are surrounded by the same people they went to high school with (presumably from their own cultural background) and ultimately, they listen to mass-media telling them that X people are bad.

And if you explain this to them, they’ll still say that you’re brainwashed.

Whether you are a hardcore capitalist, or any other political ideology, I just don’t understand how anybody can be against social policies.

In my country, people complain that our benefits system is crippling us. SOME people take advantage of our disabilities and childcare benefits, but it’s a small price to pay for having them – at the end of the day, if I had a disability which meant I could not work, my country would take care of me. For that, I am more than happy to pay more tax.

This extends to healthcare, childcare, education, etc. it’s easy to sit and grumble when you see the tax bill every month, but god forbid you ever actually need these services. I am VERY happy I do not require disability benefits, and I am VERY happy that I pay into a system that makes this (and other services) available for those who do.

not just chatgpt.

Stop using Amazon, Meta products, Netflix, Spotify, etc.

All of these massive corporations are actively making life worse for people, and it will only get worse and worse as people continue to stay subscribed.

The only option is to log off and find an alternative.

Yes it worked, and still required you to dig through the answers to find the answer yourself. That is the difference. AI will search for you and collate the results to give you the definitive answer. I’m not saying searching didn’t work, or doesn’t even work today, I’m just saying AI is more efficient and effective and pretending it isn’t is simply wrong and / or lying.

You shouldn’t just trust whatever the AI says

And you also shouldn’t just trust random things you read on the internet, so I’m not sure exactly what point you are making here. I’ve never advocated for that. I also am not sure why you keep explaining to me how good search engines used to be, seems like a strange aside considering you don’t know how long I’ve been on the internet for.

Sure, but what I am talking about outperforms any search engine in history. If you have a specific question you will get a specific answer with AI, and usually it will be correct. If you use a search engine you can come to the same answer but it will definitely take you longer.

I’m not defending the use of AI, I’m just saying, the quality of them is not the issue. They are becoming extremely high quality with their answers and usefulness. The problem is with the ethics and energy usage.

I do think it’s disingenuous to downplay how effective AI can be. If you ask certain AI a question, it will give you a faster and better answer than using a search engine would, and will provide sources for further reading if requested.

And the art, whilst not as good or as ethical as human art, can still be high quality.

Being against AI is completely valid, but disparaging it with falsehoods does nothing but give the feeling that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

A discussion in good faith means treating the person you are speaking to with respect. It means not having ulterior motives. If you are having the discussion with the explicit purpose of changing their minds or, in your words, “alarming them to take action” then that is by default a bad faith discussion.

If you want to discuss with a pro-AI person in good faith, you HAVE to be open to changing your own mind. That is the whole point of a good faith discussion - but rather, you already believe you are correct, and are wanting to enter these discussions with objective ammunition to defeat somebody.

How do you actually discuss in good faith? You ask for their opinions and are open to them, then you share your own in a respectful manner. You aren’t trying to ‘win’ you are just trying to understand and in turn, help others to understand your own POV.

The innocent civilians (and soldiers) on both sides who died for their rulers thinking they were heroes.