We haven’t even made it to 1 million years, yet it doesn’t matter what you think or how you reassure yourself you’ll be fine, nature will wipe us and adapt. There’s a reason act of nature are attributed to gods
This current isn’t critical to the survival of the human species.
Pretty critical to a decent percentage of it though.
And I don’t know about you but generally I’d like to thrive rather than just survive.
The person I’m responding to said “nature will wipe us and adapt.” That implies that they’re expecting extinction as a result of this.
Yes, it’ll be harmful to a decent percentage of humanity if the current fails. That’s not even remotely on the same scale of concern as human extinction.
Then you don’t understand what happens when a significant-fraction of the planet’s population loses the ability to grow food in their farms,
& militarily wages war on all who are “in their way” to live where food WILL grow.
AMOC shutting-down FORCES WW3, if it hadn’t already-begun before then.
Even if Europe stays put & just accepts being destroyed, CCP’s long-game will opportunistically wage war against the remnants of the West, for sake of breaking the world to their rule, replacing the US’s rule.
“The destruction of the West is the midwife of Chinese dominion.”
Throw Putin & other powerful imperialists into the mix, & the Accelerationist-nihilist-oligarchs, & removing food-security from Europe ( by eradicating the atlantic’s warming of it in winters ) & the militarized-rabies that is produced does have extinction-level consequences.
there’s another forcing-process underlying all this, too:
population-saturation-rage.
It’s been seen in rats & humans.
In rats, if you have a closed-ecology ( just as we have, with our finite-planet ), & the rats have enough food to keep increasing their population-density,
they will…
…until they’re TOO crowded, when suddenly they become crazy, & cannibalistic, until the population’s butchered-down enough, & then they go back to sane ( there’s a hysteresis-loop in the process ).
The same happens with humans: pressurize the human-population enough, & there’s a “snap” from sanity to nihilism.
During the end of WW2, it happened in the European front, & the German word for the mind-mode produced is “lustmord”, or deathlust.
That mis-identifies it, though: it’s MURDER-greed.
I think that some of the Russians fighting in Ukraine are demonstrating it, perfectly.
It looks like the mass-shooting-epidemic in the US is demonstrating it perfectly, too.
So, what happens when entire regions get flipped into that mode, not just scattered individuals?
Mass-extinction.
“War becomes the drug.”, as some realized, in Yugoslavia, years ago…
The feedback-loops amplify everything, until sanity no-longer is any sort of option, & the result of THAT population’s enforcing its “answer” looks completely different from what we’re used-to living among.
Sorry to be blunt, but the less we know objectivity, the greater the % of the population who’ll be destroyed by our ignoring/denying ( including mine: this is global viability, not ideological )
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And you think this will happen simultaneously, to everyone on the planet everywhere at the same time? Including all the remote uncontacted tribes, isolated island nations, the herders and farmers in various hinterlands, and so forth? And once everyone gets “deathlusted” they’ll all just act like crazed zombies, murdering and murdering until there’s just two left and then they strangle each other in the wreckage?
You’re demonstrating another example of interpreting “the end of my personally familiar comfortable lifestyle” as “the end of the whole entire world, full stop, it’s all over and gone.”
I’m sure there were people during the Bronze Age Collapse who thought it was the end of the world. And for their definition of “the world”, I guess it was. But humanity is so much larger than your little personally-familiar corner of the world.
Sorry to be blunt, but the less we know objectivity, the greater the % of the population who’ll be destroyed by our ignoring/denying ( including mine: this is global viability, not ideological )
Bear in mind: extinction requires that the % needs to be exactly 100%. Exactly. 99% won’t do it.
The timeline is thus, geopolitical-1st, then climate, after:
late-2026, Trump goes full-dictatorship to prevent loss-of-power, accountability, etc.
You know how he’s pushing coal, & paying billions to prevent renewable-energy?
Multiply that by 1000x
Regional Consolidation Time, 2026-2033, Trump rampages the Americas, “Russia” ( China supplanting Russia in gov’t & industry, but Russian oligarchs get to pretend, so long as they grind-down Europe ), China on Asia ( because the West abandoned Asia ), & MBS, post-Netanyahu, consolidates the entire Middle-East & Africa.
“US” & “Russia” implode in 2033.
WAR, 2033 to +4-decades or so, the Chinese Empire doing all it can to break & destroy the competitor, the remnant-of-the-West.
IF that is survived, THEN … I expect total-marine-food-web-colapse.
Ecologically & climate…
Global-warming accelerating still, until sometime in the … WAR years.
Much of California, Texas, Saudi Arabia, India, northern Africa, become uninhabitable some time after 2030.
It will help snuff India’s fight against China.
The increased savagery of the cyclonic-storms will make some coasts become wreckage.
The increased flooding & sea-level-rise will trash some of the North Atlantic.
AMOC shutting off will wreck Europe’s we-can-grow-food-here regions.
That will help “Russia” in grinding-down Europe.
etc.
Amusingly, there is also the geomagnetic-pole-flip that has begun…
Oh, what happens when it happens?
Well, our Van Allen belts, which protect satellites from raw-solar-wind, … disappear.
AND it renders compasses useless, simultaneously…
Oh, well that means that navigation’s … fucked … right?
Yep.
Perhaps you’re seeing a trend happening here…
Perfect Storm.
Perfect meshing of all the different dimension of this coming karma, so it has maximal effect.
That’s what we’re in-for.
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