Is that the smell of someone being cooked?

    • REDACTED@infosec.pub
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      2 months ago

      I’m actually terrified of this. With all it’s flaws and even evilness - I/we can’t ignore the fact that it was keeping other major powers in check. China would far more likely invade Taiwan and likely whatever else they want, I’m in Baltics so… Russia won’t be so scared to attack it. Shipping lanes and global transportation of goods will no longer be protected by US (where credit is due, they really cared about it, up until Trump), other powers like Pakistan, Turkey and Venezuela might get funny ideas, etc.

      Ironically, world without US would look less secure to me

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        I, too, am actually terrified of this yet still looking forward to it.

        we can’t ignore the fact that it was keeping other major powers in check

        But otoh it was also always the major power stirring the pot, and more so recently. So much that that argument doesn’t hold anymore imo.

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        If the US goes down, they won’t be able to NIMBY over South America. Those countries can rise to prominence on the world stage.

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          Yeah, because the US military is just going to vanish if the government collapses.

          All those aircraft carriers, nuclear subs, and land based missiles will just leave.

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            They’ll likely be subdivided between costal states and be scrapped. A lot of that shit is non-viable to maintain if you aren’t the US, if memory serves right aircraft carriers are generally built in Maine for example kinda doubt South Carolina has the infrastructure to maintain one.

            Mind you that’s assuming a lot of things going a relatively specific way but I can’t imagine even a reduced federal government maintaining any of the fleets.

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                My point was moreso that no individual state would have the resources or even infrastructure to properly maintain the various ships in the US Navy. I suspect that for any who would try (assuming new federations and unions don’t pop up) would basically be stuck with the same issue as Russia with that one aircraft carrier.

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                  I was trying to play into it in a more macabre manner. I was hoping to imply that in the event of the collapse of the US, the states would go free for all and protect resources. I have no doubt that South Carolina would try to keep as many weapons as we manufacture. It’s a fun hypothetical to think about. The level of chaos that would ensue. It’s fascinating, really.

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            2 months ago

            The US military will be too busy with power struggles to care about South America.

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        Ironically, world without US would look less secure to me

        On the other hand, the world wouldn’t have wars and coups, caused by the USA.

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          Do you honestly believe there would be less wars overall without US? Actually think about this

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          Sooo… Currently unstable regions get a bit less unstable and stable regions get to become unstable? I guess we would be nicely averaging out then. Is this us government communist after all? Equality for all, but not the equality anyone desired! :(

          /s incase it wasn’t obvious