• hector@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 months ago

    The US and company fomented the unrest to the best of their ability you can be sure. Coming on the heels of a bad faith war with Israel and the US that Iran was powerless to respond to, having to be humiliated and have nothing of substance to return with, these protests will be ruthlessly crushed as Iran rallies around the flag.

    The protests are associated with the US. Even before the president talked about it. The US is doing all it can to exacerbate them too.

    Celebrating this is naive, this is just more cause for war being manufactured so Israel can postpone elections longer, and associated bullshit in the US’ Israel First policy.

    • Godric@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      Iran powerless even after the terrorist orgs they bankroll went wonky? Tell that to the unarmed civilians they shot in the fucking face.

      You’re a disgusting anti-human ghoul, shilling for tyrants and murders.

      • hector@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        5 months ago

        Yes not giving the US and Israel cause for more Iran war is “disgusting,” great point. That is the quality of conversation I have come to expect from the mechanized troll legions and their carpet bombing of social media campaigns with diarrhea shit.

        It works on some people, the weak minded.

        • Godric@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          Why do you consider rape, murder, and maiming as state policy as an acceptable way to terrorize the Iranian people for protesting?

          • hector@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            5 months ago

            Israel rapes kills and murders. You want to give them cause to wreck havoc in Iran.

              • hector@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                5 months ago

                Israel rapes, murders, shunts millions of others into ghettos and tries to final solution them all, while lashing out at their powerless neighbors with absolute military and intelligenc superiority, under false pretenses. Then schemes to keep lashing out after international pressure forced them to put their fhetto reprisals and bad neighborism back on simmer.

                Which is where we are. Restarting bad faith war between an advanced military with unlimited funds and a rudimentary military with limited funds.

                You are going to get those protesters hurt with your cassus belli here.

                • belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  I dont want a war. I dont want military intervention. I just want these protestors to succeed. I know some of them. They should not have to live under the IRI anymore.

  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 months ago

    This is the first time Trump could actually do something meaningful to improve something in the world. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    • hector@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      You think starting a second Iran War is “meaningful?” Wow.

      Ironic you no doubt lament and scorn the right for falling for propaganda.

      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        5 months ago

        I’d say the current situation in Iran is comparable to civil war; support for the rebels would probably help speed up things and reduce deaths on their side.

        • hector@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          The only war is the ongoing one with Israel and the US and Iran and their allies. I suspect your media and sources of information are doing you a disservice if you see things like that.

          • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            Be honest, do you see the theocratical regime in Iran as a positive thing? Iran under the Shah was pretty progressive and actually gave a shit about basic human rights, something you can’t say about Iran today.

            • thoro@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              5 months ago

              Yeah the basic human rights of BP to have access to Iran’s resources

            • hector@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              5 months ago

              The Shah was incredibly repressive. Infamous secret police. The ruling class had some rights, got their pictures taken smiling.

              This is all just trying to restart the war and you are going along with it, why? Because you believe them? That the shah was great, that the protests can topple the regime here?

              • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                You didn’t answer my question. Do you approve of the current status of Iran as a theocratical-military dictatorship?

                • hector@lemmy.today
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  I have no say in the government of Iran. The only thing we have a say in is if we give the worst people in the world cause to war against them more. You don’t either. Iran government mean, US/Israel Warring good, is your logic here.

                  As if that would help anything, it would make it worse. But helping isn’t the point, distracting the public for israel is.

  • Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 months ago

    Depressing how astroturfed by Zionists Lemmmy has become.

    Its becoming a micro Reddit.

    • super_user_do@feddit.it
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      You don’t have to be a Zionist to support the fall of the Iranian regime. In my university there’s a fairly large Iranian community and bro they are begging for Donald Trump not only to bomb, but to even straight up start a full scale invasion. Especially women are so fed up man

      • Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Thats like the Cubans in Florida who want regime change. They dont represent anyone except themselves. Also Iran is diverse and there are minority groups like the Kurds who want their own state.

        Most Iranians migrants are also fanatical Zionists because they think israel will make their dreams come true of dismembering Iran into half a dozen warring countries.

        Also I have to add that Iran had been under crippling sanctions from the US regime and its.proxies.for over 15 years. this has eviscerated the economy and is a form of economic warfare to impoverish the population and force them yo turn against their government. It is yet another war crime the US regime engages in with abandon.

    • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      I would think not supporting the Iranian regime does not instantly make one a Zionist.

      I think this is really the true problem with tankies. They’ll support any oppressive regime as long as it opposes the US.

      • Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        The quickest way of knowing an NPC has been indoctrinated by neocon propaganda is when they call a government that the Zionists dont like a “regime”

        I guess oppressive “regimes” that do America’s bidding are fine in your book. If you’ve ever stopped to think about the inconsistency, that is.

      • 3abas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        The problem with liberals, should I can you a liberal? The problem with liberals is they call everyone with a point they don’t understand a tankie.

        We can agree that the current government is very oppressive, and we can agree that it would be great to replace them.

        What we can’t seem to get across to you is that being able to show your hair everywhere and wear skirts again is not worth giving away the country’s future by giving control of your oil to the US and helping expand your genocidal neighbor Israel. That’s what’s on offer, not freedom and liberation, but liberal/secular civil laws and a puppet dictatorship to ensure you never say you’re unhappy again.

        Iran will seem like it’s flourishing, western media will broadcast images of women in bikinis at the beach and the shah being celebrated in parades, economic sanctions will be removed and cost of living will improve for a lot of people, some people will be rich again as corruption runs rampant but that will be reported on as the success of capitalism. The poor will be worse off, the dictator will disappear anyone who dares question him, just like his father did. And Iran will become a country that lives off US subsidies and military contacts, like every other middle eastern country with a US puppet.