Several niche, left-leaning gun advocacy groups said that since the killing of Alex Pretti by federal agents in Minneapolis, they can hardly keep up with the surging demand for firearms training.

With Donald Trump sending armed federal agents into communities around the country, even more once gun-shy liberals and leftists are considering getting armed.

And while Americans tend to think of gun owners as leaning more Republican and male, already more women, gay people and people of color have taken up arms in recent years, particularly after 2020.

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    i got my gun license. told some of my friends about it and now they are suspicous that i’m secretly right wing.

    you can’t win with this shit.

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      Allowing the enemy to be the only group who is armed and trained is not very bright position your friends are taking. A lot of leftist are armed because we know that all these threats that the right keeps making towards us are serious

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        i never said they were smart people. but where i live it’s a super common attitude and I am the weirdo.

        To me guns are just tools. I think tool nuts are just as weird as gun nuts.

        I know one guy who just collects expensive tools to oogle them and doesn’t even use them. He buys like $200 hammers.

        Allowing the enemy to be the only group who is armed and trained is not very bright position your friends are taking. A lot of leftist are armed because we know that all these threats that the right keeps making towards us are serious

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    They’ll buy a gun, do some basic training and never touch it again. Too bad they didn’t find this urgency when it was only brown people being targeted.

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      Dude shut up. It’s never gonna be enough for you, is it? “Oh well they picked up some garbage on the side of the road but DIDN’T SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING SO THEY ARE LIB SHITS!”

      Oh someone joined a left leaning gun group and might want to start getting more involved? “FUCKEM I’M GONNA GATE KEEP THE REVOLUTION THEY ARE POSEURS THEY SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN GROUP!”

      So sorry some people are new to this or changing their mind and not doing something big and dramatic that looks exciting enough for you, even if they suddenly changed their minds and agreed with you 100% that’s not good enough they should’ve thought this way forever ago.

      Freaking hamstringing your own movement because you hate the newbies? Don’t want to do the boring long work of permanent change? Just want to sit back and think of a communist commune Israel but don’t want to wash the dishes?

      Let the people in, be welcoming, show them the ropes. Encourage people to practice with their gun instead of shitting on them. If you’re already in these groups, you should want your numbers to grow, not be a gatekeeping twat.

      Pull your head out of your ass.

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        Letting liberals into leftist spaces halts progress. We end up needing to fight with them more than whatever it is we are protesting. All the stuff liberals call leftist infighting is us fending off liberals trying to invade our spaces and control the situation. We do NOT want the same things. Liberals want reform, which does not work.

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          If you believe in something, and want to fight for it, your first priority should be trying to convince other people it’s a good idea. Your attitude does more harm than good; you’re incapable of thinking people can change their mind, because you’re incapable of changing yours.

          It makes more sense to get people to like your idea than pushing them away, unless you think you’re going to do it with force.

          And alienating people means you wouldn’t even be able to do that.

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            I’m not alienating anyone, i would be willing to work with their organizations, but not to invite them into leftist spaces so they can neutralize our movements.

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              You quite literally just said that you don’t alienate anyone while describing how you alienate them.

              Also, your shit attitude definitely alienates people. You’re the equivalent of what the Westboro Baptist Church does to Christianity, i.e. you’re a loud hateful prick that actively pushes people away from a group they want people to join by being an asshole.

              For the sake of your own revolution, shut up.

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                They can form their own coalitions. Demanding membership in an organization you are not part of is infantile and always results in the organization failing. There was a reason The Black Panthers didn’t let white people or any other races in. But they worked with Latino groups, with Young Lords, with Young Patriots, etc but those groups fought specific causes.

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                  The difference is that while you can’t change your race, you can change your political ideology, and if you want people to believe in your political ideology you have to actually let people into your little club. And not be a massive prick.

                  Or, what, you think the revolution is going to work with the seven people you personally agree with?

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    I swear, we see this article every six fucking months as though its news and not an ad to sell more guns.

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      More liberals buying guns is a good thing. I don’t think universal gun ownership is a good thing, but it’s better than the clear power imbalance we have now

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          No but going to a protest with a slung rifle absolutely does. In a funny way the talking heads are right about the gun Pretti brought with him. They’re right about the wrong thing, but a concealed sidearm presents no message inherently by being concealed. CCW is for polite people in polite society. What we have now requires the same tactics the Panthers used, visible intimidation. A low ready or slung rifle is just as legal to carry as a pistol, but if there are 20 or 30 protesters carrying, ICE might consider not having a gun battle in the streets. And history shows that they tend to back down.