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As much as I wish this could have happened, Joe’s chances were even worse than hers. Every time he got behind a podium, his polling numbers dove even further.
Only if they tricked Trump into another debate while Joe was on a lot of coke. At which point he would have had to step down right after the election anyway, due to his heart giving out.
Joe never should have ran for a second term, and he should have known better than to try it.
I’m dubious he could have pulled it off, the feelings in groups I follow were… not good. He was too old, too ‘establishment’, there was no excitement.
I guess we can’t know now, but when Kamala was announced there at least was some excitement. You know, before her campaign started actively sabotaging itself.
He said he was only going to do one term really early on. Then once in office, that pipe dream evaporated. It was pretty much just some remarks during the campaign against Trump.
As for pulling it off, he probably could have, just barely. Not that he had any more enthusiasm from anyone, but he would have kept a bigger part of the elderly vote who knew him well. At least if were able to stand up on stage with Trump and be lucid. My bet is that could only happen with a fairly heavy drug cocktail, that would lead to serious health problems fairly quickly. He fell apart right after the election anyway, so it very well might have killed him on the spot.
I firmly believe he would have stayed out if Trump hadn’t been on the ticket. All they needed to do was have a justice department willing to put his ass away and Joe would have gone “My work here is done!” and rode off into the sunset.
It was anonymous members of his campaign. They never said it on camera because he never wanted to take a position on it, and no one really pressed it enough.
They’re not going to have video because he never said that.
It stems from this Politico article in which anonymous people express their personal opinions about what someone else should do and for some reason everyone believes it was Biden personally making a pledge.
He said he was only going to do one term really early on.
No, he never said that. Anonymous people said that they thought he would, and when journalists immediately asked Biden he said he had no plans for running one term. No one remembers what Biden said, and for some reason take as gospel what anonymous people thought someone else would do.
My controversial opinion is that if he’d never run in the first place and made sure Harris played a significant role in his administration, she could have had a shot at winning it with a full campaign. If she were a white male it would have maybe even been easy. The Democrats will never run a truly progressive candidate, and as proven in Kentucky this week the over 60 voting block still matters most.
And yes, if you can’t tell I have absolutely no hope for US politics. But I’ll still at least vote for whoever isn’t the fascist every time.
I think the problem is they tried this. Kamala was frontlined initially by the Biden admin. She was crazy unpopular, a bad public speaker, and really terrible off the cuff on questions. She’s just a very poor politician, or maybe a politico from an era that doesn’t exist anymore.
The most support she had was when Biden dropped, before she talked. If Biden had dropped later and the elation and excitement that was generated by him dropping out was carried into the general, Kamala wins imo.
I keep hearing she needed more time, no. She needed less time, the country had forgotten she sucked when Biden dropped, she had plenty of time to remind them.
never should have run her in the first place
biden should have stayed in, won, and stepped aside
As much as I wish this could have happened, Joe’s chances were even worse than hers. Every time he got behind a podium, his polling numbers dove even further.
Do you think Joe could have won again?
Only if they tricked Trump into another debate while Joe was on a lot of coke. At which point he would have had to step down right after the election anyway, due to his heart giving out.
Joe never should have ran for a second term, and he should have known better than to try it.
Originally, didn’t he claim he was not going to?
I’m dubious he could have pulled it off, the feelings in groups I follow were… not good. He was too old, too ‘establishment’, there was no excitement.
I guess we can’t know now, but when Kamala was announced there at least was some excitement. You know, before her campaign started actively sabotaging itself.
He said he was only going to do one term really early on. Then once in office, that pipe dream evaporated. It was pretty much just some remarks during the campaign against Trump.
As for pulling it off, he probably could have, just barely. Not that he had any more enthusiasm from anyone, but he would have kept a bigger part of the elderly vote who knew him well. At least if were able to stand up on stage with Trump and be lucid. My bet is that could only happen with a fairly heavy drug cocktail, that would lead to serious health problems fairly quickly. He fell apart right after the election anyway, so it very well might have killed him on the spot.
I firmly believe he would have stayed out if Trump hadn’t been on the ticket. All they needed to do was have a justice department willing to put his ass away and Joe would have gone “My work here is done!” and rode off into the sunset.
And who’s fucking fault was that?!
I’ve heard this repeated so many times yet I’ve never heard those words come out of his mouth. Do you have a video?
It was anonymous members of his campaign. They never said it on camera because he never wanted to take a position on it, and no one really pressed it enough.
They’re not going to have video because he never said that.
It stems from this Politico article in which anonymous people express their personal opinions about what someone else should do and for some reason everyone believes it was Biden personally making a pledge.
No, he never said that. Anonymous people said that they thought he would, and when journalists immediately asked Biden he said he had no plans for running one term. No one remembers what Biden said, and for some reason take as gospel what anonymous people thought someone else would do.
Before that debate, I would have said yes. After, no way.
Hilarious take. Biden’s campaign was over the second he stumbled onto that debate stage. They might as well have started writing the autopsy then
Why? Trump has done far worse and they give him a pass.
Trump is a cult leader. Biden is not.
Agreed. He should have stepped out of the race long before then. Hubris.
My controversial opinion is that if he’d never run in the first place and made sure Harris played a significant role in his administration, she could have had a shot at winning it with a full campaign. If she were a white male it would have maybe even been easy. The Democrats will never run a truly progressive candidate, and as proven in Kentucky this week the over 60 voting block still matters most.
And yes, if you can’t tell I have absolutely no hope for US politics. But I’ll still at least vote for whoever isn’t the fascist every time.
I think the problem is they tried this. Kamala was frontlined initially by the Biden admin. She was crazy unpopular, a bad public speaker, and really terrible off the cuff on questions. She’s just a very poor politician, or maybe a politico from an era that doesn’t exist anymore.
The most support she had was when Biden dropped, before she talked. If Biden had dropped later and the elation and excitement that was generated by him dropping out was carried into the general, Kamala wins imo.
I keep hearing she needed more time, no. She needed less time, the country had forgotten she sucked when Biden dropped, she had plenty of time to remind them.
Wtf. Biden’s brain was as cooked as Trump’s, if not worse.