They may not have the gavels yet, but House Democrats are laying the groundwork for a number of investigations into Donald Trump should they win control of Congress in November.

Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif. — who’s set to chair the House Oversight Committee in a Democratic majority — told MS NOW that his team is “already preparing and gearing up.”

“We’ve got a team on Epstein, we have a team on [Trump] family corruption, we have a team on DHS and ICE,” Garcia said. “Those teams are actively working on preparation, letters, research.”

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    Maybe prosecute for the myriad of blatantly illegal shit that’s already public knowledge, then investigate the rest once he’s already in prison?

    We’re going to be investigating this fucker’s crimes for the next 50 years.

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      If and when we take back the power that’s being gerrymandered out of our grasp currently, we’ll begin investigating his actions and ultimately applaud ourselves when we confirm what is already very, very obvious. He might be dead of natural causes but at least we investigated. Meanwhile, every one suffering the wrath of his ego and the cruelty of his minions just needs to sit tight and trust the process.

      Nah Robert, fuck you and your plans. Fuck your party and your committees. You’re useless sacks of shit who’ve squandered power in the past and will squander it again once (if) you take it back while the innocent suffer and die at the hands of this regime. Too little, too late. I hope history records for posterity that the ineptitude of the Democrats, while not equal to the crimes of MAGA, is like modern day Chamberlains. Ya fucked around and the rest of us have to be the ones who found out.

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    Yeah, I’d really like to hear what the plan is to un-fuck everything if they retake Congress. And Jesus tittyfucking Christ, stop focusing only on Trump. There’s a whole horde of gouls pulling the strings behind him, and they need to be stopped. Trump is just a pedophile figurehead.

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    They had nearly a decade to do ANYTHING about Trump, the Epstein files, etc. nothing is going to functionally change because these people are complicit. Enough of them on both sides are also compromised and implicated or simply bribed.

    The same song and dance they’ve been putting on for decades. “Oh we can’t do anything unless we control the house and the Senate! Just wait till we’re in charge! We’re gonna fix everything” And then comes the infighting, lack policy, and eventual capitulating to corporate interests.

    What makes you think they’re gonna do anything about any of the shit now?

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      They also can’t do anything about it even if they wanted to. You need a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict.

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        You do realize that the Epstein files potentially implicate many people in high positions?

        You do realize that performing investigations and to all of these people and also removing them from Congress would likely lead to new people getting elected and therefore moving closer to the 2/3 majority needed to impeach?

        There are things that can be done other than whining about we don’t have the votes in the Senate. They’ve had a decade of Trumps bullshit and Bidens stalling and failing do anything about it. And your argument is they don’t have votes in the Senate?

        is there no way to implicate and remove those who are also involved in high levels of government?

        How can you only argument for a solution be weight for decades until there’s 2/3 majority to impeach? What kind of defeatist attitude is this?

        There needs to be political will to cleanse the government Of these sick perverted corporate backed corrupt politicians, no matter what party or state they come from.

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      What they should be doing is clearing the party of establishment aipac pieces of shit, because the voters won’t let it go this time just because they don’t want Trump.

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      I think everyone agrees, we just don’t have faith that it’ll bear fruit. There’s been someone in the party doing this since Trump won his first primary, but they’ve always been stopped at some level by ANY degree of opposition, from thinly veiled foot dragging to blatant corruption.

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      Seriously, it feels like people think Dems should be building an oubliette right now. The process of rooting out and punishing corruption/incompetence starts with investigations (if you don’t have absolute power) - so they’d better be damn ready to hit the ground running

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        building an oubliette

        An oubliette is where you put someone to forget about them, and these shitheels should be remembered forever as cautionary tales, both on what can happen if you get too casual about letting corrupt fucks into positions of power, and on what can happen to you if you’re a corrupt fuck and you try to fuck around too corruptly and get caught with your dick in the cookie jar.

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        The problem was nearly four years of “this time we’re really gonna get Trump” in the context of the J6 investigation, the documents he hoarded in his bathroom, etc, and not a damn thing actually happened. The man is white and wealthy and we had four years to see what white and wealthy gets you - teflon skin apparently.

        So it’s a little bit hard to imagine dems coming out hard enough to secure consequences of any kind for him. I’m hopeful, sure, and I’m glad they are planning. What I lack faith in is the effectiveness of the plans.

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          There was a lot getting lined up, and then the fucker got re-elected. I’m pretty sure he would have faced consequences if he wasn’t president.

          He’s spent his entire second term dismantling the nation, probably in part to try to make sure it doesn’t actually have the ability to punish him.

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            He’d already secured his wins when McConnell gave home the Supreme Court and shit loads of lower court appointments. (Eileen Cannon especially).

            Now it’s even worse.

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        I think a big problem is people saying “the Dems” like politicians, the party, fundraisers, and everyone else are in lockstep.

        That’s how it used to work, but we quit that shit over a year ago. For good reason. A giant organization controlling everything is the antithesis of the Democratic party.

        But yeah, we can’t afford to pull another Biden where day 1 we “start to discuss if we should investigate if it’s time to worry about ____”.

        New congress is 7 months away, and they’ve got midterms and 2 months of vacation between now and then.

        We don’t have as much time as people think, we absolutely should have shit ready.

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      Shouldn’t they be gearing up to make Trump serve appropriate sentencing for the crimes he’s already been convicted of? Hasn’t he been convicted of enough felonies to serve a life sentence?

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    Republicans: Investigate Trump’s personal enemies, Democrats, and transform the government into a fascism machine.

    Democrats: Investigate Trump, do nothing else.

    What a fantastic plan.

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      Democrats: Investigate Trump, do nothing else

      If you told me you are a bagel last week, I’d be an absolute idiot to think that was all you’ve eaten in a week

      Yet you seem to think if you hear about 100s of people doing 1 thing, it means that is all all of those people are doing…

      Some people are really only capable of one single task at a time, the problem is those people don’t understand how unique they are, and they assume everyone else is the same.

      Shit man, I’m preparing for dozens of things constantly, and I’m acutely aware of 10x the things I can’t do shit to prepare for. But I’m still cognizant they’re probable situations I may have to deal with.

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        I’m sure the Democrats would do something if their voters ever held them to account 🤣🤣🤣 thankfully they have you guys to do this shit all the time

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        🤣🤣 that’s a lot of words to hallucinate a reality where the Democrats haven’t been investigating Trump for the last 10 years. Kind of undermine the judicial stronghold and the lack of enforcement the dems would face. Inappropriate optimism strikes again. And you turned it into a self glazing too 🤣🤣🤣

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    Just vote for us one more time bro, please bro, we’ll totally investigate the high crimes of DC insiders bro just more votes bro just this one more time PLZ!!!

    I actually lol at “actively working on…letters”

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    They’re bought and sold. They’ll investigate nothing. No one will be prosecuted. We can call this maneuver the Obama Forward Look. During the OFL, the Democrats will probably pass one symbolic bill that seems like something good but is in reality a handjob under the desk of corporate America. The light of the USA will dim further.

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        True but, also rogue nuclear state USA with declining everything not good for the world. There was probably a better way to decouple than this.

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      Biden and the neoliberals had four years, and they did what anyone with a brain predicted.

      Which included Biden naming a DNC chair in 2021 that would rig the 2024 primary, which also happened.

      But because Republicans won the 2024 election, DNC voting members got to pick their own chair in 2025.

      Blaming the current chair for what happened 2021 thru 2024 with the party makes as much sense as blaming Obama in 09 for what GW did 04-08…

      I’m not trying to be a dick, it’s just very hard to explain such a basic concept in a way that doesn’t come off condescendingly.

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      They had 10 years really. If they took the Russian thing seriously, they would’ve prevented Facebook from providing Russian propaganda to the masses during election season to the tune of billions of dollars… they instead, invested in Facebook and enjoyed the gains on all of this

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      26 years really, If they would have slowed down the consolidation of power in media empires…. And prevented an administration from cozying up to Fox News to advocate for torturing prisoners. The marriage of politicians and media has been going wrong my whole life: they don’t care they abuse it too.

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      Trump specifically should have been in prison for blatant crimes well before he ever even ran the first time in 2000. It was already public knowledge by the time i was in high school in the 00’s. And thats what i, a stupid kid not in NYC knew.

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    The orange utan has full immunity, courtesy of the corrupt SCOTUS. The dens should just stop the gesticulating already.

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    How about prepared to throw him in jail in an immigrant detention center indefinitely while we take 10 years to bring up charges? Good enough for a random Iraqi but not the president?