There were Jewish Nazi collaborators you fucking idiot they’re not mutually exclusive. Also nice job showing everyone you lack the capability to respond you fucking child. Answer the question how many times do they have to come out and give honors to Nazis and Nazi collaborators before it’s representative?
Your question is invalid. You want a clear, partisan response that reinforces a myopic world view. I talk to you like an insolent child because you act like one. The reality of the situation in Ukraine is far more complex than a few journalists, buzz-terms, or a few memes can encapsulate. You don’t actually want discussion or debate. You want to believe you spotted something that few others have. I think you’re missing about 99% of the detail required to help you form a question that I actually would be interested in engaging.
Thank you for the word salad you massively arrogant idiot. The answer for most people is 1. If Amerika, Germany, France etc decided to name a military division after a Nazi division or rebury Nazis/Nazi collaborators with state honours every reasonable person would be able to point and say this is a problem that needs fixing. The fact that you have a hatred of Russia is not allowing you to see it in this case. I’m not asking you to be pro Russia simply to realise that modern Ukraine has an issue (which it very clearly and well documented does).
You want to believe you spotted something that few others have.
No it’s really well documented hence all the links you idiot.
Also “oh it’s so complex they really had to do all these pro nazi things” is cope for idiots. Grow up you petulant child.
I actually would be interested in engaging.
All you’re clearly interested in doing is prostrating before Nazis in Ukraine for being anti Russia.
I didn’t call you a nazi? Why are you incapable of responding like a reasonable person? I’m not trying to summarise Ukraine’s entire situation I’m pointing to a single well documented issue that runs from the head of the country right down to the boots on the ground of them having an issue with honouring Nazis (which is again extremely well documented). This is clearly an issue as would be rightfully pointed out if it was happening anywhere else. The fact you keep caping for deflecting and trying to act like it’s something that it’s not is just fucking idiotic.
If the head of government is constantly doing things to please and appease Nazis and Nazi collaborators how unrepresentative could they possibly be they clearly hold some major political sway. Which is an issue that needs fixing not handwaving and appeasement.
No, I’m wondering what genuine options Zelensky has. It strikes me that he’s not in a position to make well balanced decisions. If he doesn’t recruit the help of these Nazis than what would be the reality for his campaign against the Russian invaders and pro-Russians in his country? Is there evidence that Zelensky has recruited the help of these Nazis because he genuinely, and wholeheartedly supports their policitcal aims? These would be kind of questions that would be asked in court. I think it’s reasonable to look at a few memes and articles and believe the full picture is still much deeper.
Ok so these Nazis hold enough political sway that the head of government has no choice but to please and appease them and yet you continue to say they are not representative and not an issue? Do you even hear yourself?
Also I’m not making any judgement off just memes and articles but off studying the conflict since it began in 2014 (which you clearly haven’t given how you’re approaching this and some of the reprehensible shit you’re saying in endorsing the banderite campaign against ethnic Russians)
I do continue to say it. Are pedophiles representative of the USA? They voted one in and still have him there after the abundant evidence that he contributed to the abuse and trafficking of girls and underage young women. I’ll agree that Nazis are representative of Ukraine if you agree that pedophiles are representative of good ol’ 'Murica.
Yes I would. Pedophiles and murders are absolutely representative of the US government lmao you don’t think they are? Amerika has been the most evil empire on earth since 1949. Raping pillaging and genociding across the world from the banana republics to Gaza to Jakarta.
There were Jewish Nazi collaborators you fucking idiot they’re not mutually exclusive. Also nice job showing everyone you lack the capability to respond you fucking child. Answer the question how many times do they have to come out and give honors to Nazis and Nazi collaborators before it’s representative?
Average pro banderite government turbolib:
Your question is invalid. You want a clear, partisan response that reinforces a myopic world view. I talk to you like an insolent child because you act like one. The reality of the situation in Ukraine is far more complex than a few journalists, buzz-terms, or a few memes can encapsulate. You don’t actually want discussion or debate. You want to believe you spotted something that few others have. I think you’re missing about 99% of the detail required to help you form a question that I actually would be interested in engaging.
Thank you for the word salad you massively arrogant idiot. The answer for most people is 1. If Amerika, Germany, France etc decided to name a military division after a Nazi division or rebury Nazis/Nazi collaborators with state honours every reasonable person would be able to point and say this is a problem that needs fixing. The fact that you have a hatred of Russia is not allowing you to see it in this case. I’m not asking you to be pro Russia simply to realise that modern Ukraine has an issue (which it very clearly and well documented does).
No it’s really well documented hence all the links you idiot.
Also “oh it’s so complex they really had to do all these pro nazi things” is cope for idiots. Grow up you petulant child.
All you’re clearly interested in doing is prostrating before Nazis in Ukraine for being anti Russia.
So you’re calling me a Nazi? This is proof of Godwin’s law. Let me try and dumb-down my position a bit for you…
Does the Ukraine itself have a chequered past with allegiences going east and west over time? Yes.
Is it clear that Ukraine have recruited the help of some highly questionable groups? Yes.
Does that make them representative of those groups? No.
Are they doing this because they’re in an extremely challenging position with limited options? Yes.
Would I do the same if I was in a similar position? Perhaps…?
Does this short list come close to fully summarizing the situation in Ukraine? Not at all.
I didn’t call you a nazi? Why are you incapable of responding like a reasonable person? I’m not trying to summarise Ukraine’s entire situation I’m pointing to a single well documented issue that runs from the head of the country right down to the boots on the ground of them having an issue with honouring Nazis (which is again extremely well documented). This is clearly an issue as would be rightfully pointed out if it was happening anywhere else. The fact you keep caping for deflecting and trying to act like it’s something that it’s not is just fucking idiotic.
If the head of government is constantly doing things to please and appease Nazis and Nazi collaborators how unrepresentative could they possibly be they clearly hold some major political sway. Which is an issue that needs fixing not handwaving and appeasement.
No, I’m wondering what genuine options Zelensky has. It strikes me that he’s not in a position to make well balanced decisions. If he doesn’t recruit the help of these Nazis than what would be the reality for his campaign against the Russian invaders and pro-Russians in his country? Is there evidence that Zelensky has recruited the help of these Nazis because he genuinely, and wholeheartedly supports their policitcal aims? These would be kind of questions that would be asked in court. I think it’s reasonable to look at a few memes and articles and believe the full picture is still much deeper.
Ok so these Nazis hold enough political sway that the head of government has no choice but to please and appease them and yet you continue to say they are not representative and not an issue? Do you even hear yourself?
Also I’m not making any judgement off just memes and articles but off studying the conflict since it began in 2014 (which you clearly haven’t given how you’re approaching this and some of the reprehensible shit you’re saying in endorsing the banderite campaign against ethnic Russians)
I do continue to say it. Are pedophiles representative of the USA? They voted one in and still have him there after the abundant evidence that he contributed to the abuse and trafficking of girls and underage young women. I’ll agree that Nazis are representative of Ukraine if you agree that pedophiles are representative of good ol’ 'Murica.
Yes I would. Pedophiles and murders are absolutely representative of the US government lmao you don’t think they are? Amerika has been the most evil empire on earth since 1949. Raping pillaging and genociding across the world from the banana republics to Gaza to Jakarta.