I left pre-Trump, for personal reasons. I’ll never go back.
And I think it’s unwise to judge those who leave rather than staying and fighting. My ex’s family came to the US from Poland in the 1930s. The family that remained in Poland were sent to the camps and murdered. People make their own choices, and it’s sanctimonious to lecture those who choose differently than you did. And staying and actually fighting is not the same as being a keyboard warrior, either. I’m not saying you are, but many others are.
We’ve got our own fasc problem here, too. I’m doing what I can. Lemmy’s not the place to go into more detail than that.
I love how you think it’s sanctimonious that others judge it. They’re leaving because of a bad vote result; something they had the choice to participate in and fix.
That’s it. Vote results. Personal reasons.
Not a world war, like the Poles and Jews suffered. Not starvation and brutality. A fuckin vote result.
Tell that to people being tortured in El Salvador, or beaten and murdered by ICE, or the kids dying because they weren’t vaccinated, or trans people deprived of health care. Or go tell it to the people outside the US who have been slaughtered because of “vote results.”
Not starvation and brutality.
Childhood poverty has skyrocketed, and some of that is at starvation level. It’ll get worse. Brutality? See above.
That’s the job of those US citizens who didn’t vote, or voted badly in that country, not of those who repeatedly reminded them where they’d be if they didn’t vote and got told to mind their own business. For years too, not just the last three elections
So yeah. Vote results and put your responsibility elsewhere.
Child poverty….
Yes, because the US repeatedly refuse to turn out to their elections and the few tgat do continue to vote lunatics in. Again, something their voters are on the hook for, not an outsider.
I left pre-Trump, for personal reasons. I’ll never go back.
And I think it’s unwise to judge those who leave rather than staying and fighting. My ex’s family came to the US from Poland in the 1930s. The family that remained in Poland were sent to the camps and murdered. People make their own choices, and it’s sanctimonious to lecture those who choose differently than you did. And staying and actually fighting is not the same as being a keyboard warrior, either. I’m not saying you are, but many others are.
We’ve got our own fasc problem here, too. I’m doing what I can. Lemmy’s not the place to go into more detail than that.
Of course you would, you left.
I love how you think it’s sanctimonious that others judge it. They’re leaving because of a bad vote result; something they had the choice to participate in and fix.
That’s it. Vote results. Personal reasons.
Not a world war, like the Poles and Jews suffered. Not starvation and brutality. A fuckin vote result.
Tell that to people being tortured in El Salvador, or beaten and murdered by ICE, or the kids dying because they weren’t vaccinated, or trans people deprived of health care. Or go tell it to the people outside the US who have been slaughtered because of “vote results.”
Childhood poverty has skyrocketed, and some of that is at starvation level. It’ll get worse. Brutality? See above.
That’s the job of those US citizens who didn’t vote, or voted badly in that country, not of those who repeatedly reminded them where they’d be if they didn’t vote and got told to mind their own business. For years too, not just the last three elections
So yeah. Vote results and put your responsibility elsewhere.
Yes, because the US repeatedly refuse to turn out to their elections and the few tgat do continue to vote lunatics in. Again, something their voters are on the hook for, not an outsider.