Asked whether a potential meeting would take place in the US or in a different place, Trump replied, “I don’t know. I haven’t really heard too much about it.” He continued, “I didn’t suggest it [a meeting], but some people have suggested it.”
“If it happened, it would be happening. I’d be respectful.” White House correspondent Peter Doocy, co-anchor of The Sunday Briefing for Fox News, then asked the president, “Do you think because Epic Fury killed his dad and his wife and his kid that he has hard feelings?”
Trump said, “Well, I would say I’m not his favorite person, but with that being said, he’s probably a professional. In some circles he has a very good reputation, actually.”
Let’s back up a bit for those with selective amnesia. This is how this comment chain started:
If you don’t see how the exact same logic is at play, then I can’t help you. Equivalent logic structures (invalid though they be) doesn’t imply equal severity, and I’m tired of the disingenuous argument that it does.
Like the classic: “I’m suffering” “NO YOU’RE NOT, BECAUSE I’M SUFFERING MORE!!!”
Let me guess, you probably also think every German is a nazi and every Jew is a zionist? Cause that’s the same kind of generalization you’re making. The same kind of fallacy that the US and Israel have weaponized to rationalize murdering civilians across the middle east.
As a human, I love you.
Maybe it’s on me, but after comparing boycotting mcdonalds to a literal war crime… to come back by trying to convince me to cut Nazi Germany some slack.
You do you. I always say to people now, that you never now need to guess what you’d have done if you were in nazi Germany, it’s whatever you’re doing now.
I don’t expect everyone to have taken a Crack at hitler. Or to have sabotaged a fuel truck. Or have sheltered a Jew.
But, apparently, what YOU would have done is write scathing rebuttals to the Allies who were critical of the bystanders. You would have been arguing that the rest of the world was asking too much of the German people.
When did I say anything about cutting nazi Germany slack? Is that how you interpret questioning whether you think every German is a nazi? Cause if so you either need to work on your reading comprehension, or get over your teutophobia.
Plenty of people in nazi Germany were against the regime. They couldn’t leave much of a public record, for obvious reasons, but they were there. There was a German resistance, but it didn’t last very long before getting crushed.
What you’re arguing is essentially that the Allied forces making their way through Germany should have been roughing up civilians, because they were Germans and apparently, according to you, that makes them nazis.
That is a terrible argument, and fortunately one that most sane people reject outright. But you’re making it here about USians, many of whom don’t support the current administration.
Focus all your ire on the administration, on trump supporters and the entire maga movement, on congressional republicans, on supreme court conservatives, on billionaire oligarchs and the right-wing media, hell even on DINO spoiler voter members of congress and the complacent, centrist, and corporatist leadership of the democratic party. You’ll get no argument from me there.
But to accuse the entire US population? That’s no different than blaming the civilians living under any other dictatorship, and if you continue to insist that you’re in the right for doing so then you can kindly fuck off.
Where have i suggested anything even remotely similar to the allies roughing up the German citizenry? Violence at all?
I get that you’re mad. For some reason you’re desperate for someone to acknowledge you’re “one of the good ones” or something.
First of all, that is pathetic, period.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m sure your identity is multifaceted. And, ultimately, I pass no judgement on you as a complete human. I’m unsatisfied by your comprehension of your own situation. Im unsatisfied by your comprehension of the world. I’m unsatisfied at your ability to read. Im unsatisfied by your capacity for first order logic. I think you are very thin skinned.
But you’re passionate. You write well. You say “fuck”. You have an instinct to “defend” your “kin”. You don’t know when to quit. You’re obviously incredibly optimistic. I admire and respect all of those things about you.
People are multidimensional. I don’t think you’re a bad guy. Nothing you’ve said makes me think you’re great or anything, but like… you’re allowed in my house?
It starts with demonization. If you don’t see the direct line between demonizing an entire populace and acts of violence being committed against them, then I don’t know what else to tell you. Are we suppose to wait for egregious acts of violence to occur before we can call out prejudice?
Your plausible deniability that you’re relying on is the same thing stochastic terrorists rely on to maintain their innocence. “I didn’t kill that person! I only put their address online and said they were an asshole!”
No, you’re again missing the point entirely. I don’t need you to acknowledge me as “one of the good ones,” because I categorically reject your offhand generalization and vilification of the entire populace. I’m telling you that you’re wrong; not begging for your approval.
Get this through your head: I DON’T NEED TO SATISFY YOU!
I don’t owe you anything. I don’t need to prove myself to you. I don’t need to demonstrate my comprehension to you. I’m not obliged to you in any way, and you’re not entitled to make demands upon me that I do. You’re judging without knowledge, which is the definition of prejudice.
I’M NOT IN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE.
Well said. Very well said.
The complacent public in Germany were absolutely at fault. The complacent public in Israel were absolutely at fault.
Not every American is MAGA, but every American that just shrugs and says “I’ve got bigger fish to fry” while they can absolutely do more is absolutely at fault.
Red line after red line after red line and no real resistance? Cowards.
Tell me, what will you do when Trump is not removed in November after elections (if they even happen)? When your illusion of your checks and balances saving you finally falls apart completely? You have 5 months left. Maybe spend some time thinking about that.