Lol! The “What have I said that isn’t factually true?”, is probably the most “misinformation” response to being called out for spreading misinformation, there is.
Are you actually suggesting that anyone with a skull and crossbones tattoo, is automatically a Nazi? Even if that person has extremely non-Nazi political views?
You say you’ve listened to what he’s been saying, and can’t find anything wrong with it…but, you’re still skeptical because the establishment keeps calling him a Nazi…but can’t understand why I might call you out for falling for their propaganda?
This is such a weird take, man. You should probably give it some thought.
Come on. If I see a “skull and crossbones”, I think “pirate”. If I see a totenkopf (or a swastika), I think “Nazi”. I guess that’s a “narrative” but it’s not one specific to Mr. Platner, and not something I need “the establishment” to tell me.
The “narrative” is that he knew what it was when he got it…because he’s a Nazi. The implication that he’s some kind of “secret racist”, who’s only pretending to hold progressive views. That’s the “narrative” the establishment wants you to believe.
Is that not the same narrative you keep talking about? Maybe I misunderstood your position, then? Or are you just playing dumb, now?
If I see someone with a Nazi tattoo, I assume they are a Nazi. Crazy, I know. You on the other hand, are going with the narrative that he didn’t know what it was. You could be right! I’m skeptical.
If I see someone with a Nazi tattoo, I assume they are a Nazi. Crazy, I know.
Crazier still, is that you wouldn’t even ask them about it…or listen to them, if they tell you they didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol when they got it.
Instead, you’d go the extra mile and assume they were lying, and that everything they stand for is some kind of psy-op that just also happens to conveniently benefit the establishment, by keeping a long-standing conservative in power?
Again…are you not the same guy that posted that meme about how “they” are always trying to divide the left with some clever scam? And yet, here you are…faced with one in real time…and you fell for it.
This is exactly how they do it. You’re the meme, dude.
No, I’m not in the habit of asking people to explain their obvious Nazi tattoos. Now, if I see something like a Thor’s hammer tattoo/necklace, I will ask them about it, since that one can go either way. What I hear you saying is that I’m crazy/dumb for putting more stock in a tattoo (and job history) than in what the guy says. You are welcome to take people at their word, but please try to understand why some of us might need a little more “trust building” in a case like this.
I’m not saying you’re “crazy/dumb”…I’m saying you’re demonstrating your own meme.
How long has this story been out, now? How long has this guy been campaigning? How many interviews, speeches and rallies has he given? How many opportunities have you had to actually hear his side of this narrative?
You claiming you need to do a little more “trust building”, is bullshit. He’s been out there for almost a year now, and you haven’t listened to anything he’s been saying that whole time. You heard exactly what they wanted you to hear, and then you simply ignored the rest. Even now, when people are trying to make you see the truth…you are actively rejecting it.
No offense, man…but that’s exactly what programming looks like. It’s self-defeating, self-perpetuating, and no amount of convincing is going to break it.
Words are words. Again, could be legit, but he is campaigning for office! Trust is built with action. Someone with his history has kind of a deep hole to climb out of. Left-unity is not some excuse to uncritically support anyone that comes along saying nice-sounding things, particularly when that person has such very suss history.
What “history” are you talking about? Do you think he has a history with Naziism? That he’s been secretly going to Klan meetings?
How are you not “uncritically” accepting the narrative that he’s a Nazi, without ignoring everything else that says he isn’t? Wouldn’t critical thinking involve looking at everything about him, not just the one detail that contradicts the rest?
Lol! The “What have I said that isn’t factually true?”, is probably the most “misinformation” response to being called out for spreading misinformation, there is.
Are you actually suggesting that anyone with a skull and crossbones tattoo, is automatically a Nazi? Even if that person has extremely non-Nazi political views?
You say you’ve listened to what he’s been saying, and can’t find anything wrong with it…but, you’re still skeptical because the establishment keeps calling him a Nazi…but can’t understand why I might call you out for falling for their propaganda?
This is such a weird take, man. You should probably give it some thought.
Come on. If I see a “skull and crossbones”, I think “pirate”. If I see a totenkopf (or a swastika), I think “Nazi”. I guess that’s a “narrative” but it’s not one specific to Mr. Platner, and not something I need “the establishment” to tell me.
The “narrative” is that he knew what it was when he got it…because he’s a Nazi. The implication that he’s some kind of “secret racist”, who’s only pretending to hold progressive views. That’s the “narrative” the establishment wants you to believe.
Is that not the same narrative you keep talking about? Maybe I misunderstood your position, then? Or are you just playing dumb, now?
If I see someone with a Nazi tattoo, I assume they are a Nazi. Crazy, I know. You on the other hand, are going with the narrative that he didn’t know what it was. You could be right! I’m skeptical.
Crazier still, is that you wouldn’t even ask them about it…or listen to them, if they tell you they didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol when they got it.
Instead, you’d go the extra mile and assume they were lying, and that everything they stand for is some kind of psy-op that just also happens to conveniently benefit the establishment, by keeping a long-standing conservative in power?
Again…are you not the same guy that posted that meme about how “they” are always trying to divide the left with some clever scam? And yet, here you are…faced with one in real time…and you fell for it.
This is exactly how they do it. You’re the meme, dude.
No, I’m not in the habit of asking people to explain their obvious Nazi tattoos. Now, if I see something like a Thor’s hammer tattoo/necklace, I will ask them about it, since that one can go either way. What I hear you saying is that I’m crazy/dumb for putting more stock in a tattoo (and job history) than in what the guy says. You are welcome to take people at their word, but please try to understand why some of us might need a little more “trust building” in a case like this.
I’m not saying you’re “crazy/dumb”…I’m saying you’re demonstrating your own meme.
How long has this story been out, now? How long has this guy been campaigning? How many interviews, speeches and rallies has he given? How many opportunities have you had to actually hear his side of this narrative?
You claiming you need to do a little more “trust building”, is bullshit. He’s been out there for almost a year now, and you haven’t listened to anything he’s been saying that whole time. You heard exactly what they wanted you to hear, and then you simply ignored the rest. Even now, when people are trying to make you see the truth…you are actively rejecting it.
No offense, man…but that’s exactly what programming looks like. It’s self-defeating, self-perpetuating, and no amount of convincing is going to break it.
Words are words. Again, could be legit, but he is campaigning for office! Trust is built with action. Someone with his history has kind of a deep hole to climb out of. Left-unity is not some excuse to uncritically support anyone that comes along saying nice-sounding things, particularly when that person has such very suss history.
What “history” are you talking about? Do you think he has a history with Naziism? That he’s been secretly going to Klan meetings?
How are you not “uncritically” accepting the narrative that he’s a Nazi, without ignoring everything else that says he isn’t? Wouldn’t critical thinking involve looking at everything about him, not just the one detail that contradicts the rest?