• KelvarCherry [They/Them]@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    14 days ago

    the bill will ban children under 16 from using social media

    contrary to what most would expect from the title, the bill is NOT good and refusing to back down will hurt Canadians, not help them.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      14 days ago

      Bills don’t do anything but provide political talking points until they’re signed into law.

      Children under 16 aren’t leaving social media, even if there’s a federal law against it. Even less so than smoking and drinking alcohol.

      All this does is changes the age they say they are when signing up for sites that attempt to enforce the law.

      I mean, a 13 year old can stand up their own Lemmy instance and join the Fediverse… how is this law going to stop that?

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        14 days ago

        That’s where we get stage two, identity verification. Everyone will have to provide ID or some other form to uniquely identify themselves on the internet so they can track everywhere you go and everything you do, all while claiming “think of the children”

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      14 days ago

      refusing to back down will hurt Canadians, not help them.

      I don’t think that putting bans on under-16s being able to use social media is very good policy, but I also don’t see how it’s my job as an American to improve Canadian policy. If they’re gonna pass a law that isn’t a good idea, well, there are about 200 countries out there, and I’d say that every one of them have some collection of laws that I don’t think are a great idea.

      If Canadians don’t like the law, then it’s up to Canadians to get it repealed. There is always gonna be some contingent out there that is going to be pushing for laws that I don’t think is a good idea.

      Besides, several US states have tried (in some, being blocked as violating the state constitution). There are several conservative states where social media bans for minors or laws requiring parental sign-off on use are in force now.

      https://www.multistate.us/insider/2025/10/8/eight-states-enact-minor-social-media-bans-despite-court-fights

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      If I’m going to stick my fingers in someone else’s legislative agenda, they are gonna top the list, not Canada.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    We could quash this terrible bill because it’s a terrible bill without it being a capitulation.

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    14 days ago

    a reminder that the social media ban isn’t ment to protect children. it’s to prevent them from getting help when they are being raped and abused.

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        11 days ago

        if they don’t know they are being raped, they can’t report it. and if their only source of information is their rapists and abusers… how are they supposed to live.

        sure predators target idiots online. but far more kids are saved because they post on social media and can get the help they need.

        the only people who want to stop kids from being able to get help online, are rapists, abusers, and other creeps.

        just notice how most of the big names pushing for the ban on social media for kids are all on the Epstein list, or are part of groups like: moms’ for liberty (who’s leader got arrested for being a pedophile). it’s almost like the abusers really really love the social media ban and know how to trick the masses into supporting it too. – just like the abortion bans and trans bans being pushed through in the USA. they use lies and just say “think of the children” and “we are protecting kids” any time someone actually asks the tough questions.