He doesn’t appear to have actually been charged of anything, despite the questionable headline wording. That said, the fact that he even could be charged indicates that the law is poorly written.
Surely, any sane and reasonable person would not regard the removal of human-generated garbage from a body of water as dredging it, no matter how much of it they removed. The law’s vague/poor wording, similar to the lackadaisical wording of many laws, allows bad-faith actors and nit-picking trolls to “gotcha” people like this for very pedantic technical breaches of the law’s letter, despite them acting very much in the law’s spirit.
If doing an objective public good is illegal, it is the law that’s bad, not the lawbreaker.
He hasn’t been charged with anything, and the issue isn’t picking up trash, but dredging the river with heavy equipment and removing silt.
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they brought in a backhoe and started digging.
I didn’t see any video of it up until now, but I believe you’re right that this step should not have been done without an ecological survey. Another poster noted potential concerns about altering the floodplain and damaging the microbial biome with such actions, which seems a legitimate one.
That said, we’re discussing a symptom rather than its cause. I believe we should be asking ourselves why we allow our commons to go to shit to the point where unskilled vigilantism is taking the place of absent public works. these guys got so tired of their government allowing their beautiful natural environment to collect garbage that they felt the need to set up this project.
It is much harder to fault them for overstepping or failure to consider these environmental details when the people who are supposed to be doing it are asleep at the switch. At its core, this is government’s job and they’re neglecting it. It could be argued that anything bad that happens from this is directly caused by that inaction, even though those doing it share that blame to a degree. Anything the volunteers did wrong was done out of ignorance, whereas the government’s role is one of negligence, a worse and intentional offense. The solution is to replace the elected officials until you get ones that do their job.
Tl;dr: It seems the group was well intentioned but this actually could have been pretty environmentally detrimental.
According to this article, it appears the issue is the team used a digger in some capacity. Details on how are sparse.
I’m a microbiologist (environmental micro), but I studied a few things in grad school. A big chunk was hydrology and riverine engineering, more specifically erosion control and environmental remediation. I promptly went on to work in a different field, because who does what they actually study in university?
I’ll spare you the details (unless you want them, I will go HAM on erosion control autistic data dumping because I rarely get to talk about this) but it’s pretty easy to fuck up a river if you start digging it up. Given they mentioned flooding concerns, I checked to see if the area is in a flood plain and confirmed it is.
Humans engineer rivers in floodplains to prevent the previously cyclical flooding as well as reduce erosion. If those controls are damaged, the flooding and erosion can resume, and downstream effects (…pun?) can be pretty serious for humans and the environment.
I’d need more information to confirm exactly what happened, but there may be some merit to the complaints about their project. If they didn’t have even a cursory environmental impact assessment, they could have done a lot of damage while trying to do something good.
That is good context, and I’ve seen first hand well-intentioned work have unintended consequences like you describe.
I guess I had assumed that they were just hauling out debris with the diggers, but if they were changing the topology of the riverbed and surrounding floodplain, I could see that causing flooding or other problems.
You mentioned microbial composition; do you think that judicious use of digging equipment like I had assumed would be damaging to the microbiome, or only if they were indeed dredging?
He doesn’t appear to have actually been charged of anything, despite the questionable headline wording. That said, the fact that he even could be charged indicates that the law is poorly written.
Surely, any sane and reasonable person would not regard the removal of human-generated garbage from a body of water as dredging it, no matter how much of it they removed. The law’s vague/poor wording, similar to the lackadaisical wording of many laws, allows bad-faith actors and nit-picking trolls to “gotcha” people like this for very pedantic technical breaches of the law’s letter, despite them acting very much in the law’s spirit.
If doing an objective public good is illegal, it is the law that’s bad, not the lawbreaker.
I didn’t see any video of it up until now, but I believe you’re right that this step should not have been done without an ecological survey. Another poster noted potential concerns about altering the floodplain and damaging the microbial biome with such actions, which seems a legitimate one.
That said, we’re discussing a symptom rather than its cause. I believe we should be asking ourselves why we allow our commons to go to shit to the point where unskilled vigilantism is taking the place of absent public works. these guys got so tired of their government allowing their beautiful natural environment to collect garbage that they felt the need to set up this project.
It is much harder to fault them for overstepping or failure to consider these environmental details when the people who are supposed to be doing it are asleep at the switch. At its core, this is government’s job and they’re neglecting it. It could be argued that anything bad that happens from this is directly caused by that inaction, even though those doing it share that blame to a degree. Anything the volunteers did wrong was done out of ignorance, whereas the government’s role is one of negligence, a worse and intentional offense. The solution is to replace the elected officials until you get ones that do their job.
Tl;dr: It seems the group was well intentioned but this actually could have been pretty environmentally detrimental.
According to this article, it appears the issue is the team used a digger in some capacity. Details on how are sparse.
I’m a microbiologist (environmental micro), but I studied a few things in grad school. A big chunk was hydrology and riverine engineering, more specifically erosion control and environmental remediation. I promptly went on to work in a different field, because who does what they actually study in university?
I’ll spare you the details (unless you want them, I will go HAM on erosion control autistic data dumping because I rarely get to talk about this) but it’s pretty easy to fuck up a river if you start digging it up. Given they mentioned flooding concerns, I checked to see if the area is in a flood plain and confirmed it is.
Humans engineer rivers in floodplains to prevent the previously cyclical flooding as well as reduce erosion. If those controls are damaged, the flooding and erosion can resume, and downstream effects (…pun?) can be pretty serious for humans and the environment.
I’d need more information to confirm exactly what happened, but there may be some merit to the complaints about their project. If they didn’t have even a cursory environmental impact assessment, they could have done a lot of damage while trying to do something good.
That is good context, and I’ve seen first hand well-intentioned work have unintended consequences like you describe.
I guess I had assumed that they were just hauling out debris with the diggers, but if they were changing the topology of the riverbed and surrounding floodplain, I could see that causing flooding or other problems.
You mentioned microbial composition; do you think that judicious use of digging equipment like I had assumed would be damaging to the microbiome, or only if they were indeed dredging?