At least 18 people died in France, including two children left in a hot car, as a heat wave gripped Europe and smashed temperature records in several cities Monday.

As schools in France closed ‌or modified their schedules, forecasters in Britain predicted temperatures could break June records this week.

The temperature in Bordeaux in France’s western wine country rose to 41.9 C, breaking a record set last August. In Poitiers, in central France, it reached 41.2 C, surpassing a previous high set in 1947.

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      My parents are understanding very well while reading on the one hand comments from Gen Z - like you - and alike that it is all the boomer’s fault and on the other hand asking themselves how they will pay that month the health bills and other costs from their little pension .

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      That and the fact that salaries are very low in France. I see americans talking about $200k a year for software engineers, where in France you get $50k a year on average if you’re a senior.

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        There’s no way those numbers are true as an American who’s in the industry. Like maybe super high end for USA and super low for France as outliers but you basically have to be a genius wizard to be making 200k a year as a software engineer anywhere in the USA. Even then it’ll only be in a super high cost of living place, no software dev in the Midwest is pulling 200k.

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            Well good for them, I haven’t met any - I think we could at least agree that’s very rare.

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              Also this ignores that 50k goes a lot further in France than in the US. In my experience cost of living is around 1.5x in the US when you account for everything than it is in France.

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        That is because for a long time software developers were paid way higher than anyone else in the tech industry. There are very very few engineers in the Midwest that get paid that.

        If you compare CoL in silicon valley to France, it is literally 4x+ in many cases.

        I moved from the Midwest (low CoL) to Belgium and my CoL went significantly down, like 40%.

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        Okay counter point, I can live minimum wage comfortably ish in France. You don’t need 200k to live here.

        Also, I don’t think comparing the top 1% crack engineers is a good representation of salaries compared to cost of living.

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      They aren’t having kids because France doesn’t use air conditioners or hasn’t typically in the past? It isn’t a money thing, it’s a “we don’t need them and never have” thing and now they do. It’s like buying a dryer in south east Asia, they don’t use them and they’re incredibly hard to even find one to buy.

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        1. You can’t just negate a heat wave with AC, most people actually need to be outside sometimes.
        2. AC mitigates the symptom, not the root. Actually, it contributes to the root issue massively, especially with wide-scale use. And it will not be enough when the heatwaves will reach 10, 20 °C higher.
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        They aren’t having kids because this weather is not normal: climate change is bringing extreme weather that is already causing big problems and will only become worse in the future.

        Don’t be an idiot and pretend you didn’t know that’s what they meant.

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          I mean, it’s pretty funny that you would say gen z aren’t having kids because of climate change like it’s a settled single-source issue. There are many reasons, climate change is one of them