What a crock of shit

  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    11 days ago

    I’ll be amazed if anybody sentenced here will be in prison 5 years from today. The guy who shot the gun might be an exception because only a crazy person is firing guns off at other humans like this, but the rest is just bizarre.

    It’s never acceptable to vandalize shit but the sentences are wildly excessive.

    • blitzen@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      It’s never acceptable to vandalize shit but the sentences are wildly excessive.

      Really, never?

    • Eldritch@piefed.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      Apparently there’s some evidence to suggest he fired in response to the officer pulling his weapon. But the fact remains. If you’re going to fire at an officer of the state. Commit. Even if you miss they will try to lock you up for life. There won’t be an “understanding”. Or no harm no foul with community service. The state will bury you one way or another.

      Hopefully many of these with be appealed as they’re fucking ridiculous. But I don’t have any great hopes.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      The guy that fired the gun did so in response to the cop pulling his gun and firing first. Self defence.

      He actually has a case that could overturn Qualified Immunity, should anyone actually let his lawyers know about the full text of §1983, not the illegally amended text that was copied into the Federal Register in 1884. The relevant Congressional Record is 1881.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      The guy who shot the gun might be an exception because only a crazy person is firing guns off at other humans like this

      Only a crazy person shoots a gestapo thug in defense of others? (According to the article, the thug had his gun drawn and was about to start shooting protestors.)

      • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 days ago

        Anyone discharging a firearm in a protest is insane man. Guns shouldn’t even be there. I just imagine a giant crowd and stray bullets striking indiscriminately. I’ve lost multiple friends to bullets. One was a stray shot not intended to hit her at all, but she’s still dead and her sons grew up without a mom.

        The moment someone opens fire is an escalation point which can go a couple of ways. What if shooting the guy resulted in all of the officers drawing weapons and starting shooting? what if dozens or hundreds of lives were lost? The moment weapons fire is heard is the moment everyone assumes there is an active shooter and reacts. It’s quite literally suicidal to shoot at cops, and they didn’t just risk their life, they risked the lives of everyone else there.

        So yeah, no. I don’t really prescribe to shooting cops who haven’t fired a shot and are surrounded by witnesses or cameras. Just like I don’t condone them shooting unarmed protestors.

        • quick_snail@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 days ago

          I remember being at Occupy protests and watching and experiencing violence and unlawful arrests from police

          Then on the national call we realized that cities with open carry laws didn’t experience such violence from police, because natives joined with guns.

          We have very recent history of guns keeping protestors safe from police

    • quick_snail@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 days ago

      The guy who shot the police only did so after police pointed a loaded firearm at unarmed protestors