• minnow@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    why are you so Hell-bent on promoting tyranny, anyway?

    Begging the question, asssumes the conclusion that the other person is intent on promoting tyranny.

    Why do you apparently so love the idea of The People not being able to defend themselves against The State?

    Strawman, misrepresents the other person’s argument.

    Why are you carrying water for the fascists by dogmatically pushing your sick, twisted, authoritarian misinterpretation of the law?

    Red herring, attempts to change the subject under debate from interpretation of the 2A to if the other person is supporting fascists.

    And the whole paragraph is a kind of ad hominem/appeal to emotion.

    Hey, I’m not here to say if you’re right or wrong about your interpretation of the 2A. I’m just here to tell you you’re being a fallacious asshole.

    Good luck convincing anyone of anything 😏

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      9 days ago

      Congrats on ignoring three paragraph of substantive arguments to focus on the addendum that wasn’t part of the argument at all.

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        9 days ago

        The three paragraphs regarding the topic that I explicitly stated that I wasn’t engaging with you about?

        The focus on the addendum that you didn’t have to include but did anyway?

        You don’t seem to understand that everything you say in an argument is part of the argument. You done fucked up by letting your emotions get the best of you, and if you think that doesn’t impact your chances of successfully convincing another person about something, you’re just fooling yourself. Humans are emotional creatures, and whether you’re right is, at most, the same importance as maintaining the other person’s willingness to accept that you’re right. Yeah, that’s fucked up, emotions should have nothing to do with whether something is correct or incorrect. If you’re right, you’re right… Right?

        Case in point: you know I’m right, but you’re pissed off at me and don’t want to admit it (but maybe you will, now that I’ve called you out on it, just to spite me)

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          9 days ago

          Case in point: you know I’m right, but you’re pissed off at me and don’t want to admit it (but maybe you will, now that I’ve called you out on it, just to spite me)

          Well fuck, now I have to spite you by not admitting it!