• 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I quite like Toronto’s system. It’s not free, but it prioritizes residents and guarantees you a spot on your street. it’s $25/month for one car but gets significantly more expensive if you register multiple cars or have private parking.

    Not a fan of cars in general, but as far as parking goes it seems to work well, especially coming from NYC which is the wild west

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      8 days ago

      At $25/month, it’s still a massive subsidy provided by all citizens…

      $25 is laughable for the amount of real estate the car takes up and the inconvenience and opportunity cost for literally everyone except the driver…

      People use their cars as storage lockers in my neighborhood… the car sits there all year round stuffed FULL of junk. why pay $100/mo for a storage space when you the city will give you 50sqft public space for 25$

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        6 days ago

        Don’t think of that $25 as a way to pay for the cost, it’s a way to limit parking to residents only, and usually only one vehicle.

        Boston does similar but no one is guaranteed a spot. You only know that your neighborhood streets are only used for neighborhood drivers. It’s a great compromise between no cars and all cars.

        Actually Cambridge, MA, is more interesting. They’ve gone the furthest toward no cars of any city I’ve seen. Of course they have a subway line and good bus service. Of course they have a really good bike trail and lane network. Of course they’ve spent decades turning roads one way or do not enter to keep cars out. Of course the one parkway has been pedestrian only every summer weekend for decades. Of course a few years ago they redid the only major east-west road to cut from three lanes each way down to one, to give a full bike lane and a full bus lane. You can’t entirely get rid of cars, but most neighborhoods are resident permit only and they have been removing parking spots on main roads and shopping areas.

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        8 days ago

        So $1000/month would get you 2,000sq ft of real estate.

        I’d love to rent a 2,000sqft appartement in Toronto for $1000/mo

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          7 days ago

          Yes, so you agree that charging $25/month is actually insanely cheap.

          Yet drivers are always complaining about parking fees and saying shit like “bike lanes take up parking space! Bikers dont pay permit fees like drivers!!”

          We can provide $1000/mo for 2000sqft of habitation for cars, but $2500/mo for 600sqft of living space for humans

          Housing for cars prioritized over housing for humans

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      8 days ago

      Back when Leticia James was Public Advocate of NYC, she was pushing for residential parking permits of that sort. Would love to see that initiative revived.