Like was it a meaningful debate or a flat out flame war? And what was the main theme you were arguing over?

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        Yeah, we’re all thieves. Only the blind and deaf are not. Great argument. You win.

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            Bravo. You’re great at knowing your bullshit argument will win any debate.

            Out of curiosity, if someone wants to become an artist and trains by watching Disney films, how much do they owe Disney before they’re allowed to make anything?

            Oh, wait, let me guess: the rules you’ve made up don’t apply to biological neutral networks, only digital ones, right? Brilliant. I can see why you win debates by calling bullshit right at the onset.

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              Or maybe I was talking about how the material fed into the AI was largely pirated content that they did not pay for. Content, that if you are a human, you’d legally have to pay to read. And they got away with pirating jusssst fine for commerical use.

              I don’t need to get into flimsy but still correct shit about how there’s a substantial difference between only extracting from other’s content compared to writing with your own experiences combined, because they committed crimes to obtain the data that they used to create AI.

              More however, you pretend that personal hardware somehow doesn’t have an environmental impact? That’s also laughable.

              My call of bullshit was correct, so I’m going to laugh at you complaining about it

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                Oh, right, you know everything that went into training every model and can pinpoint what was illegally obtained and what was not. I forgot. It must be nice having such knowledge, and makes winning arguments really easy since you can prove it on demand.

                Sorry, are you writing your post on a piece of recycled paper, with renewable-sourced ink, and then walking it to your ISP where they inject the message via manual modulation of the signal without any frivolous use of electricity? Very impressive. I wish we all had that luxury. My solar array just doesn’t compare. I’m so wasteful.

                Yes, yes, you and your made up rules with no legal standing, with a complete lack of hypocrisy are very impressive. Laugh at the pigeon-delivered missive in your hands until the light from the renewable candles burns out. You’ve earned it with your moral superiority and impressive ability to unilaterally decide what is and isn’t legal. I’m sure blind, deaf people will write stories about you some day since they’re the only ones who can without infringing on the rights of content they’ve seen or heard.

                A round of applause for Fred, the Fish Lord, please! Truly, we should all strive to be as carbon neutral, universally omniscient and legislatively powerful as him.

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            I hope the boy you’re ho’ing is blind and deaf. Otherwise anything they say or create can be attributed to the data they’ve been exposed to in the past and they’ll be guilty of copyright infringement just through the act of thinking! Poor boy.