Like was it a meaningful debate or a flat out flame war? And what was the main theme you were arguing over?

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    No, you’re missing the point entirely. AI is a tool, and with any tool the person responsible is the user. There are already laws in place for people who produce forgeries, plagiarism, scams, etc. If someone uses AI to accomplish something dishonest there is already a process in place for addressing that. We don’t need special considerations for AI any more than we need to to determine what to do when someone burns a building to the ground with gasoline versus just matches. The crime is still arson, so hating on gasoline because it made the fire burn faster is just stupid.

    There are plenty of people on here saying AI should go away. There’s an entire community on Lemmy called fuck_ai who would disagree with you. Pretending they don’t exist doesn’t make the analogy a straw man.

    The only criticism I’ve seen is regarding data centers, because haters are too moronic to separate the two. It sounds as though you fit into that category, as well.

    But no, I’ve realized I can’t change anyone’s mind so I don’t care anymore. Enjoy your hate parade. There’s your thought-terminating cliche. I don’t care anymore.

    In the future I’m just going to decline to self-report as someone who uses AI. People can’t tell anyways, which is why self reporting is necessary. Admitting it is just volunteering for punishment. So no, I don’t use AI, never have and never will. Go argue with someone who uses AI, because that’s not me and never has been.

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      You keep changing the question.

      You asked why people dislike AI. I gave you reasons. Now you’re arguing whether AI users should be legally responsible for misuse. That’s a completely different conversation.

      And your gasoline analogy falls apart because gasoline isn’t designed to generate persuasive text, images, voices, or code at scale. AI is. The concern isn’t that it’s “a tool” it’s that it’s a tool that dramatically lowers the cost and effort required to produce plagiarism, scams, misinformation, and deepfakes. Society has always treated technologies differently when they massively change capability and scale. That’s why we have regulations for cars that don’t apply to horses, and aviation laws that don’t apply to bicycles.

      As for the “fuck_ai” crowd: congratulations, you’ve found some extremists on the internet. They aren’t representative of everyone who criticizes AI. You asked why people dislike it, not whether literally every critic wants it banned.

      The irony is that you’ve spent this entire discussion asking for reasons people hate AI, then dismissed every reason as either “humans do it too,” “it’s already illegal,” or “those people are morons.” You didn’t come looking for reasons you came looking for excuses to ignore them.

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        Yep, you were right all along. I’m right there with you one hundred percent, my brother in hate. AI has no redeeming value, it’s evil. Let’s go find people that disagree with us and torment them together! We’ll show them what it means to disagree with the mob.

        I’ve never used AI and never will.

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          You can’t think of an actual argument with substance, so you’re just going to try and paint me as someone hateful. How embarrassing for you.

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            I don’t know what you’re talking about. Only an idiot would use AI. Who wants to angry up a bunch of totally rational people who very intelligently and logically realize AI is evil, with no redeeming features? Certainly not me.

            So I’ve never used AI, and I never will use AI. That’s what my Steam developer page says, and that’s not going to change. It’s not worth the hate you’re targeted with. Plus I hear it eats babies and steals all the art in your home while you sleep.

            So I’ve never used AI, and I never will use AI.