You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.
The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.
The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).
Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.
They were being nice, but since you insist on persisting in your willfull ignorance: you’re a fucking idiot who does not understand how the internet works nor how data centers are involved with it. Your straw man argument that 70% of the internet are bots is sourced by your ass, from whence you pulled it.
Yeah, you you and you. You were in the negatives by your fourth comment down. Literally one of my comments has been downvoted by anyone besides you. You’re encroaching upon the border of delusional.
I’m actually telling the facts and you’re the one being detached from reality, but normally people like you are “not interested in hearing about it” anyway, so I’m honestly not surprised you say that.
I’m done arguing with you for the same reason I don’t debate climate change deniers.
I never said anything about the relative proportion if internet traffic that is or isn’t bots. Does your only argument require a severe misrepresentation of what anyone else is saying?
The fact is that the datacenters that have been rapidly accelerating the demise of the planet and its climate over the last 5-6 years are specifically AI datacenters. Getting rid of those, completely frivolous and unnecessary as they are, will go a long way to reducing the severity human-induced climate change.
Getting rid of the datacenters that make the internet possible would be negligible compared to that. But I’m just restating what I’ve already said at this point, because you’re apparently either a troll or incapable of reading and understanding. Maybe both.
Taking away the internet from the billions of humans who use it just because it’s flooded with bot traffic is a really stupid idea, when you could instead get rid of the datacenters that make the bots possible. The vast majority of compute operating these bots is happening at the bot-side of the internet, not at the datacenters running the internet. The actual amount of energy/compute used for that web traffic to travel from client to server is tiny compared to what’s consumed at the bot farms.
What you’re proposing is more akin to tearing up the highways in order to prevent drug trafficking. It doesn’t solve the problem you’re pretending to want to address, it’s just a red herring that makes things worse for everyone else.
You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.
The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.
The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).
Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.
yea no
you wanna ignore what is actual reality and play pretend go for it but i’m not interested in hearing about it
They were being nice, but since you insist on persisting in your willfull ignorance: you’re a fucking idiot who does not understand how the internet works nor how data centers are involved with it. Your straw man argument that 70% of the internet are bots is sourced by your ass, from whence you pulled it.
zzzz moron
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/bot-web-traffic-overtaken-human-web-traffic-data-shows-rcna348522
and this is the sanitized take
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
crawl your ass out from under that rock
Wow, you really are braindead. No one here is arguing against there being an enormous amount of bot traffic. Learn to interpret what you read.
and yet when we’e not 5 replies deep your in the negatives, i think plenty of people get it even if you don’t
You’re getting ratioed harder than me if you really wanna bring that up
because it’s the same 3 idiots this far down
Nah, you’re the only idiot left on the chain here. Enjoy your prize, you’re special.
Yeah, you you and you. You were in the negatives by your fourth comment down. Literally one of my comments has been downvoted by anyone besides you. You’re encroaching upon the border of delusional.
I’m actually telling the facts and you’re the one being detached from reality, but normally people like you are “not interested in hearing about it” anyway, so I’m honestly not surprised you say that.
I’m done arguing with you for the same reason I don’t debate climate change deniers.
what facts?
there are literally multiple reports on how the majority of internet traffic is bots
what a strange hill to die on
I never said anything about the relative proportion if internet traffic that is or isn’t bots. Does your only argument require a severe misrepresentation of what anyone else is saying?
The fact is that the datacenters that have been rapidly accelerating the demise of the planet and its climate over the last 5-6 years are specifically AI datacenters. Getting rid of those, completely frivolous and unnecessary as they are, will go a long way to reducing the severity human-induced climate change.
Getting rid of the datacenters that make the internet possible would be negligible compared to that. But I’m just restating what I’ve already said at this point, because you’re apparently either a troll or incapable of reading and understanding. Maybe both.
Taking away the internet from the billions of humans who use it just because it’s flooded with bot traffic is a really stupid idea, when you could instead get rid of the datacenters that make the bots possible. The vast majority of compute operating these bots is happening at the bot-side of the internet, not at the datacenters running the internet. The actual amount of energy/compute used for that web traffic to travel from client to server is tiny compared to what’s consumed at the bot farms.
What you’re proposing is more akin to tearing up the highways in order to prevent drug trafficking. It doesn’t solve the problem you’re pretending to want to address, it’s just a red herring that makes things worse for everyone else.
no you just live in this make believe land from 5 years ago
You’re the one living in make-believe land. You haven’t even attempted to engage with a single thing I’ve said.
because you specifically are a waste of time
Mirror, mirror