• litchralee@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    There is definitely a difference, and they are not interchangeable. I’ll let other people chime in with a rigorous definition for communism, but at a minimum, it must have abolished the state and social classes entirely. So one could say that communism is at the very end of the road, and the various flavors of socialism are the routes to get there.

    Various flavors of socialism? Yes, I’ve written an earlier comment about that, and another one here. In brief, there are many ways to move beyond capitalism.

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      communism is an utopia ideal far more than an actionable form of government. I have never met a human being who didn’t function without a conception of social class. it only really works in small communities that have closed belief systems and practice social-isolation.

      socialism is very actionable, it’s more of a policy than a form of government. you can have a socialist monarchy or dictatorship. most ‘communist’ countries were/are socialist dictatorships.

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        Humanity actually successfully implemented a decentralized egalitarian communist society without dictatorships in 1936 Spain, which bore out that it’s possible for us to achieve freedom for all while also ensuring everyone is able to live a fulfilling life by providing free housing, food, transportation and healthcare.

        Some very specific outside circumstances caused it to be halted prematurely (namely, an unusual amount of industrialized fascist states and the USSR ganging up against it all at once, with very limited industrial capacity of their own to effectively fight back), but they documented how their society functioned while it existed quite well, and over 3 million people participated in it.

        For most, it’s as difficult to imagine to an end to capitalism as it was for peasants to imagine an end to the divine right of kings, yet it did happen.