• panthera_@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    A proposal has to be offered that would entice Putin to accept. The killing has gone on too long. It has to stop.

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      1 day ago

      The killing has to stop, so we just let Putin off Scott-free so he can do it again, which he has done repeatedly. That idiocy is so pure that if you snort it you’ll die

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        21 hours ago

        Putin would lose all the territory it seized in the 2022 invasion. The European Alliance would be a deterrence against future invasions.

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      1 day ago

      Putin can stop the war any time he likes.

      If there are no consequences for Russias actions, what would stop them from pulling back, rebuilding, and then attacking again?

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        1 day ago

        Read my proposal. The European Alliance. There are consequences. He loses all the land he seized in the 2022 invasion.

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          That’s not a consequence, he’ll lose that anyway if he loses the war, which he is increasingly likely to do. You don’t care about the killing, you’re just preserving Russia and protecting it from real consequences while substantially weakening Europe’s ability to defend itself. You’re rewarding the behavior.

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            21 hours ago

            You don’t know whether Russia will lose. Russia has greater manpower which Putin doesn’t mind expending. In my plan, Europe would be strong since Ukraine would be part of the European Alliance.