• matthurtme@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    As someone with lived experience going through occupy wall street, no it doesn’t. All I saw that accomplish was funds being embezzled, my friends get shot in the face with rubber bullets, and some of them now have criminal records. What did we get? A dollar raise to the already unliveable minimum wage.

    Did anything change on wall street? Hell no. It got worse. Sanders says that the rich own 93% of all the wealth this country produces.

    Protesting didn’t do jack shit.

    Protest now and you need to get a permit. What in the fuck is that? There’s key note speakers and performers and shit. That’s not a protest, that’s a fucking festival for people who have enough money to cosplay protesting

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      22 hours ago

      I feel for your experience, but Occupy Wall Street famously had no clear set of demands - that was why no significant policy changes came from it. It was a valid protest, but with no stated legislative goals that could be enacted by politicians.

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        Occupy Wall Street famously had no clear set of demands

        Bullshit, come on. 15 an hour was everywhere. That’s a pretty simple demand, and how did you miss it? Seriously

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        22 hours ago

        Occupy Wall Street famously had no clear set of demands

        No, that’s what billionaire owned media told people too ignorant to realize they weren’t on our side by 2011…

        https://occupywallst.nyc/demands

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street#Goals

        Just because you’re still ignorant of their goals 15 years later, doesn’t mean their goals didn’t exist.

        Just that you’ve never even taken the two minutes to check…

        That’s crossing the line into willfull ignorance

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          Dunno dude. From your own link:

          Some protesters favored a fairly concrete set of national policy proposals…but this was regarded as an attempt to “co-opt” the “Occupy” name,…this disagreement illustrated a larger tension between the people inside the movement, such as people who wanted specific legislative demands and other people who believed that it is strength coming from remaining open, decentralized, and very broadly representative.

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          5 hours ago

          You don’t have to look far that same Wikipedia article to see an entire large section on the exact criticism I raised, coupled with a large body of evidence behind it?

          Check your own ignorance.

          Occupy had goals but they had like 50 of them and they were poorly coordinated in protests, slogans, and to the media - which is why they had very limited success enacting meaningful change.

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            3 hours ago

            So…

            First they didn’t have any goals…

            Now they have too many…

            I’m sorry Goldilocks, I can no longer think of a way you’d be saying any of this in good faith.