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    I read through the thread linked above. You are confusing “conservationism” with “conservative” Like we have to conserve, and so we should be “conservative”. Not a terrible mix up.

    In any case, the debate on the left is:

    Planned degrowth vs. Eco-modernism.

    And I think it is correct to prefer a strategy of conservationism, that is degrowth, vs " keep building “productivity” which is eco-modernism.

    If in fact you are more attracted to the degrowth model, look into Jason Hickel. if you wanna research the other side, or feel affinity toward eco-modernism, you might check out Leigh Phillips. Here’s a primer for the debate.




  • Yeah I guess when I mean “being critical of abstraction” I mean like theoretically critical, not anti. I’m against abstractions being used incorrectly. An abstraction can be neutral, good even, but if misapplied it creates all sorts of problems.

    My main criticism isn’t people using abstractions to understand, its not checking to see if the ones we are using bear out in real conditions.

    I think there was a time when almost no one thought in terms of abstraction. And now its like the only way that most people think. Well like in said I have a lot of work to do


  • Being critical of abstraction is kind of my thing these days. IMO most people are more concerned with making or adopting abstractions that convincingly pass as real, because the abstractions validate people’s lived experience, rather than dig into the actual concrete conditions.

    The real mindfuck comes when we realize that people can be totally idealistic in their understanding, and simultaneously very effective at certain kinds of organizing because they have more experience with a domain of practical work than they do with theoretical understanding of that work. Because people can be kinda negative its obvious to us that people can have seemingly good theory but really bad organizing instincts, but the other side always stands out to me as well.

    Anyway, always good talking to ya comrade



  • I think about the stuff he wrote about Italian theater every time I think about live nation and ticket master.

    I think another thing I deeply appreciate about Gramsci’s writing is that given the fact that his prison notes never had to like “bend the stick” the way other leaders did. I think it gives an unusually long tail of relevance for his work, because he was working with abstractions, which reemerge over and over throughout struggle, and not messy revolutionary conditions.

    But its incredibly sad what happened to him. Anyway thanks for your insight, I have an urge to help clarify these theories – it seems like 90% of the analysis of Gramsci I’ve read has come from Neolibs and reactionaries who can only comprehend his theories cynically (the other 10% coming from DSA’s very good Mountain Caucus). But imma need to sharpen my pencil a bit I guess


  • Sees an asteroid hurtling toward earth

    don’t worry about that, the real problem is craters, which is caused by unicorns

    Asteroid getting closer

    Fucking unicorns creating disinfo about the cause of craters. Asteroids are indifferent and couldn’t be responsible for catastrophe, proving craters are caused by unicorns

    Society becomes divided into two camps, an asteroid cult and people trying to stop the asteroid

    the asteroid cult are a bunch of loons but the anti asteroid people are falling for unicorn propaganda, therefore are themselves morally equivalent to malicious unicorns

    Asteroid hits earth, leaving a giant crater

    Fucking anti asteroiders and their shitty craters.





  • I don’t think Gramsci ever wrote about false consciousness, and what you’re describing is closer to the German Ideology than Gramsci’s theory of hegemony.

    Like sorry if this is way out of whack but I think its like if someone wanted to understand Lenin’s formulation of imperialism and then I explained Chapter 15 of Capital v1. Like the theory is in there, but understanding it requires seeing how Marx’s “capital has x tendency” relates to specific, verifiable evidence.

    If youre interested I will find the proper essays in Gramsci to post along side here, I just gotta dig in my book a little bit!