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We only needed a couple for research, and it shouldn’t have been enough for people to go this ham with it. Should have been one big effort like the large hadron collider. The rest could be local stuff so people can run for their own use case. Basic storage should mostly be a local effort as well, but local smart environment hype got usurped by non-local environment connectivity, cause basic digital privacy stopped being a concern for too many regular people some time ago. Frankly the instrumental convergence turning development into to corpo frontend slop doesn’t help anything.

All technological and social development will be usurped by the Epstein class until we fix our social structure, and nobody wants to listen to the academics on that front.

Not the MBA economic magic circle around neoliberal corpo capitalist soothsayers who are all playing ball on the “don’t disrupt the hierarchy” court.

As a fan of science and technology, I really hope we can work with actual experts in finding a way to grow a new system out of the current flailing corpse acting as a system.

Like every other valuable thing for humanity, it is being bastardized to fit the fantasy of the Epstein class parasites.

I hate how people getting scammed by near monopolistic monoliths casually being fraudulent in their advertisements is them being “idiots” rather than just victims who haven’t spent their whole life navigating the myriad ways billionaires are researching to more elegantly fuck us. Why consumer protection is supposed to be a thing, why anti-trust is supposed to be a thing, and people are trapped between fascists and a “tactical vote” alternative that has done very little to stop the fascists from casually dismantling these protections.

Good job media for always individualizing the problem and blaming the victims.

People talk about how AI confabulations are going to doom us all, because people want to rely on it for fact checking rather than a salience guide.

Meanwhile the sitting president of the world’s most powerful country, and those around him, speak more lies than truth intentionally.

I’m much more scared by the people, because I know developing AI to be functionally useful while also intentionally ignoring reality will lose out to AI that actually managed to properly navigate and compare large and varied bodies of beliefs.

Why I like open source efforts. I’d rather not have to worry that my dissenting thoughts need to be affirmed by the government or billionaires before I explore it in a safe environment with a rubber duck that can hopefully help me navigate the complexity.

Although if the AI can’t push back when you are conveying low probability beliefs, given other things we know, you could spin yourself into a delusion. Although people vulnerable to that are already vulnerable to socialized delusions.

We’ve also tried, “encourage people to care about learning how the world actually works.”

But this has been widely unpopular because the type of people to listen to that are already the type to be doing that. The rest are happy even if everything they believe is completely detached from reality, as long as they can enjoy the belief personally and socially.

TLDR: I think a functional AI would do what you say, and upset a lot of people, but with enough people actually having access to properly weighed beliefs would definitely heal some of the problems currently careening the whole of humanity towards collapse on the shoulders of billionaires and corrupt politicians.

we are already counting over an estimated million deaths (mostly children) as a direct result for him making those super duper funding cuts for basically any basic needs for the poorest and most in need, all to mildly chip away at the cos of the super duper tax cuts the world’s richest were getting at the same time.

not just a “killer,” he’s the world’s richest person and he directly decided that mountains of children should die. how can you define a cartoon villain? he is so evil that he looks like a parody of evil.

You don’t think this guy was as deeply embedded with bullies as possible?

Have you seen his school rant about leaving messes for janitors because it’s their job to clean?

That’s not the style of a weird autistic kid being bullied, he has just been empowered in his really wormy style of evil and privilege.

I hate how much I’m seeing the current administration used for the argument “we need to bring bullies back” when the bullies are often the wealthy privileged who look down on the weird peasants and their lack of successful social signaling.

Love how this always gets downvoted, but i grew up around foster kids in that area, and I promise you his effort would have saved lives.

Same with atheists who were trying to make genital mutilation blanket illegal in the states, as well as fighting groups like the heritage foundation who want to keep such classic patriarchal standards alive, but being against that means you obviously hate women and think MGM is worse than FGM, and other strawmen. It was enough to make both progressive groups hate each other, with accusations of SJWs or incels based on similar legitimate grievances on both sides.

Heritage foundation types have obviously been making record ground in the meantime.

For some reason progressive solidarity just isn’t possible, because we can’t help the wrong group of struggling people. Social signalling is obviously more important than cooperatively helping those who are suffering, or in stopping the wealthy from shaping the system to fuck everyone that isn’t already part of their grotesque fascist system.

Can’t stop the actual fascists if other progressives are all the real enemy for some incomprehensible reason that always makes it back to stupid issues like this, where we just can’t recognize the niche situation, or show basic compassion or solidarity within.

As long as we keep “punching up” we can ignore the foster kids who died alone, or festered into something negative because all they ever had was a non-life where they are simultaneously exploited and told they don’t deserve help because they share some intersectional features of privilege, as explained by people who obviously never fully understood intersectionality or how such high dimensional representations can be reasonably interpreted. Usually protected by some socialized bubble of privilege where they can just go with what is being socialized and not think too hard about it.

So it’s all a clusterfuck of people using the same words to say different things, and ignoring the forest for the trees.

But surely the problem is the incels, or SJWs, and not the system that exploits both and discourages either from co-constructively solving general problems of inequality.

Or just beat up the undiagnosed poverty autistic waiting to access the library, while feeling good about how much you are fighting the system of oppression.

Or like in silverman’s place, bully the person trying to help a group that doesn’t actually have access to help, and try to shame people who mention that crushing the potential men’s shelter did not actually do anything to benefit any progressive values.

These aren’t the billionaires or entrenched oligarchs that are actively shaping a society that individualizes blame in ways that ensure you never look at the lobby groups, or war machine, or people with the money generally fucking the system into their preferred fascist shape. Let’s go after the fucking homeless instead I guess, because they are the truly privileged oppressors.

we’re due for a modern re-framing on rights and personal autonomy.

but we might need to design it fully as local coops and roll over the epstein-class in order to get it enshrined.

if you let them change it, they’ll, (as obtusely as possible,) re-phrase everything to not actually accomplish what it was supposed to.

we need big changes, and we need them yesterday, because the future is here and it’s fucking us all up. the only people with the time and social placement to affect change are the ones that have been coddled into that position through either nepotism or corporate interest. yadda.

still need voter reform… hopefully the next people voted in specifically on voter reform don’t just go “oops actually we weren’t for that at all, hee hee.” (canadian liberal party are also just the backup conservatives i guess)

and my god, there should be some accountability for directly lying to and misleading the voter base. the number of USA politicians i see that can’t answer a fucking question is embarrassing to anyone thinking they don’t live in a fascist state.

like, those promises, or statements, or blatant intentional incompetence should come with some form of accountability. if i fuck up too many lattes i have to live on the street, but politicians can laugh in your face after doing fuckall and taking your money.

generally anyone willing to take a position of power to hugely affect all of our lives and well being should be scared shitless for betraying their voters so blatantly.

more than anything we just need a whole new damned system which is built on modern science and not hundred years ancient aristocracy. it is possible. the only reason it doesn’t seem feasible is that the people with power and influence have been spending a weird amount of their excess ensuring that the system doesn’t enable or benefit anyone outside of the epstein class.

yadda yadda rant rant, i’m tired.

Not going to deny that some people totally do just use their trivia knowledge to try and peacock for social dominance, but I don’t think those people are ever actually intellectuals, due to the nature and reasoning behind their behaviour.

I do see a lot of people who interpret passing on knowledge as some kind of ego play, when it’s literally just that you would think they also would appreciate not doing something stupid just because ego shouldn’t be offended by the very concept of learning. Or worse, when the evidence suggests something that is against the social grain, and basically a guarantee to get you lynched for even trying, usual with a collective pretense of op’s reasoning. Because it can never just be about collective learning as a culture that benefits our species and protects us from the ongoing global shit fire.

Although more people need to understand it as predictive models and specific epistemic observer positions/eco-niche familiarity where you can run into that whole Dunning Kruger problem and/or poor precision weighting on the robustness of your current set of Bayesian predictors. Usually being interpreted entirely through vibes and social agreement these days. There are some really fun papers around how much social opinion can hack your opinion of you don’t learn to grow and favor more robust sources of information.

Like people who are super confident that their carnivorous pet would be healthier as a vegan, because they have “veggies are healthy” overweighted and over-generalized, and they see your confidence in the vet’s more robust understanding of the situation as some kind of ego power play, because why would people fit their knowledge for actually understanding the world rather than overspecializing into the monkey hierarchy dominance ques.

I could give a lot more examples, and how cults and the like are really good at hacking these same failures of robustness to intentionally fuck up precision weighting to ensure the world model stays fucked up and hackable for their authoritative source. Or the wombo combo that leads to the USA HHS promoting Andrew Wakefield, as If it isn’t the most thoroughly and robustly rebuked set of lies that ever got momentarily snuck into a science journal.

But remember, the intellectuals are cringe and their attempts to help the public become more informed are just too annoying, because updating your misinformed world view takes energy, and this anti intellectual culture totally has no affect on the current fucked up global situation. Also politics are cringe too. Any kind of caring is cringe, and we need to dunk on it to maintain our monkey hierarchy luster. Easy to socialize against these terrible energy consuming intellectuals and their weird philosophical eco-niche. /s

This really is the most stupid timeline. I half expect to get banned for not just doing the social thing and going "yeah ha ha, fuck the stupid pompous intellectual for making me feel stupid for encouraging me to update my priors or precision weighting when it might be important.

Actually evil.

This exists for no reason other than to intentionally harm a small and already marginalized group.

It’s a shame that fighting groups like the heritage foundation needed to take a couple decade backseat for insane cultural warring based entirely on misrepresenting each other and refusing to communicate.

And trying to point out that fact got you labeled as “enemy group” by everyone involved, and most people aren’t involved enough to tell the difference between things like faux opposition within the establishment, and legitimate progressive groups with separate but legitimate grievances.

Get the peasants fighting the peasants, because if you pump enough noise into the environment, people just stop trying to comprehend outside of their bubble.

These monsters will destroy the world in order to apply their fickle bigotry.

Fuck the heritage foundation, bohemian grove, atlas network, and their myriad of other shapes used to obfuscate while affecting control. The rich have class solidarity, and they’ve done an amazing job getting everyone else to fight themselves.

Trans rights are human rights.

“i’m going to ignore all of your points and simplify things again in a way that’s convenient for me.” literally what MAGA cultists do.

“don’t call people you disagree with nazis!” is unfortunately also what people say when people call non-nazis ‘nazis,’ such as progressive groups like feminists or atheists.

now suddenly both are nazis? and they have to fight each-other instead of the heritage foundation?

why can’t a single person here actually engage with this part of the conversation instead of the made up one they want to simplify to?

“you are jumping to defend nazis.”

where in your addled imagination did i say that?

because i’ve said in several different ways “fuck nazis, and fuck the social mechanisms empowering nazis.”

but “this framing is bad and has actively helped the nazis.” becomes “i love nazis” to people who can’t fucking read.

which is why they love the uneducated.

and why the progressive movements actively fighting this shit for decades have been socially dogpiled into being “cringe,” and chastised by insulting people with big words, because only nazis talk about framing and use big words. i often talk about jordon peterson types poisoning this particular well with their intentional bullshit.

so, was it my support for atheist and feminist thinkers? was it my hate for the heritage foundation? what part of that is defending nazis exactly?

as i said,

the meme does NOT say to call out people offended by “fuck nazis”

there would be no issue if it said that. we all agree with that.

it says to call out people who are offended by being called nazis,

and people who call out the incorrect framing are conflated with arguing a non-existent point, because comprehending framing is too much work i guess

“fuck nazis” -> good

“if i call your group nazis, and you get offended, you’re a nazi.” -> bad

“don’t call people you disagree with nazis” is a response to the second example. conflating it with the first is the problem.

words matter, and calling out bad framing should not set off tribal dogpiling.

justify why it’s ok to be triggered by ‘fuck nazis’.

nobody here is arguing this. because you can’t interpret the words doesn’t mean they actually mean this.

“fuck nazis” -> good

“if i call your group nazis, and you get offended, you’re a nazi.” -> bad

“don’t call people you disagree with nazis” is a response to the second example. conflating it with the first is the problem.

and i talk about it because it is important for antifascists to comprehend what framing is when it used against them. and maybe shit wouldn’t be half as bad if americans were socialized into comprehending and using more big words, so they can tell the difference between jordan peterson bullshit and actual attempts to communicate more complicated topics.

hard to talk about the issues if people don’t socialize the words and concepts around them.

and being a running dog for Nazism

at literally no point was i being “a running dog for nazism” and repeatedly i showed how this exact failing was useful for the current fascist movement.

"Interesting lingo you use there "

how can i phrase it without setting off your imaginary dog whistles? also i get these concepts from… anti-fascist academics.

i do agree that it’s important to flag nazis as bad, and socially reify that, but also that we need to be able to point out when the more clever nazis get the stupidest portion of progressives to socialize that other progressive groups are the real nazis, and that even trying to discuss the matter is an admission of guilt.

the original comment i was discussing a bout was talking about the FRAMING.

like saying “right thing for the wrong reasons.” which is important, because sometimes failing to distinguish helps the nazis.

this is the part about blue curtains, but you have not yet actually noticed the point we are making beyond your simpler interpretation of what is being said.

as a progressive and a leftist, i find this exhausting, because the inability for people to comprehend words past the social signalling is directly responsible for much of the recent fascist success.

but let’s keep ignoring all of that, because academics are mean for saying we have to think about context sometimes.

the world is complex, and nazis will use this type of oversimplified comprehension to stop progressive groups from finding common ground.

divide and conquer has been extremely successful for the motives of fascism.

which is no small part why USA is currently run by fascists that keep making threats against my allied country.

we can hate nazis while also being capable of communication past the hypersimplified binaries that are actively useful for nazis.

this is why all the academics keep shouting that americans need to learn to read, and why it really is “that deep.”

this isn’t “happening in my head.” at least any more than anything else from the framing of predictive processing. but that dismissal is generally the response academics have gotten when trying to affect the general social comprehension.

but you haven’t really engaged with any of the points i’ve actually made, creating your own re-interpretation of the conversation that allows you to ignore the points being made, responding to yourself instead, which is great for oversimplified social dogpiling.

Don’t think they disagreed with that part.

I think it’s just recognizing the complexity of a world where even nazis will call their enemies “nazis” if it’s useful to them.

The “if you are offended when I call you a nazi you are a nazi” is a weird take to begin with.

I think the comment you are replying to isn’t arguing with the fuck nazis part, but the behaviour where progressive groups can be divided and conquered by socializing animosity between them.

Like when atheists were fighting against the heritage foundation, until they had to defend against claims of being bigots because “wanting to make circumcision generally illegal in the USA means you are pro FGM and you hate women, and if you argue otherwise it is an admission of guilt”

And all of the progressives were shamed out until the very groups that were actively fighting groups like the heritage foundation were terraformed into actual incel chud hangouts, while academic feminists were drowned out by the same culture war bullshit, helping to generally paint feminists as cringe karens, rather than a bastion against political movements by groups like the heritage foundation.

If you don’t know why I keep talking about the heritage foundation, it’s because they are the project 2025 people in no small part responsible for the current actual fascist push.

But… That’s difficult to explain while confronted by absolutist tribalism.

Don’t be divided and conquered. It’s harder for progressives to coordinate due to group complexity, but it’s important not to do the work of the fascists for them.

Progressives fighting progressives because its socially expedient to not think about the bigger picture is indeed a big part of why trump is in power, which that comment seems to indicate as a bad thing.

That doesn’t matter though if you just imagine their comment was “don’t be mean to nazis!!”

If you just pretend they said that, it’s so much easier to do the social peacock thing that has kneecapped progressive/leftist groups, and we can just ignore the failures of this behavior, because self reflection is bad for some reason.

Because, despite the vague boundings, right now being associated with the right is basically “pro fascism.” While you could argue about traditional republican behaviours, it’s obvious that the “bad” on the left are just rightwing plants.

“left-wing bias” in its most raw form is basic care for people in policy.

As a Canadian, I definitely care about who actually supports the crazy fascists that are threatening to annex my country, and are actively feeding successionist propaganda to the least intellectually robust people in my country.

People don’t care about left wing bias because the left is generally defined by pro social, anti corporate/fascist behaviours. While USA made it legal to bribe democrats into kneecapping leftist intention within their party, and democrats are barely even “left” in policy to begin with.

So people aren’t too worried about the smothered, unfunded, and neglected pro-populous and anti-fascist policy having its bias discretely plant itself anywhere.

There are definitely issues of leftist subgroup communication failures leading to vulnerability to “divide and conquer” tactics, but having a secret bias of “we should give people basic rights and safety” is only a worry for fascist oligarchs and their propagandized cults.

i find it distressing how little i see people bring up the half million dead kids from his chainsaw.

One of the more common traits used to identify autism in children is organizing things into a line. This doesn’t mean that many non-autistic won’t do that thing, but it will be used when contextualized along with a larger body of behaviour.

“this one behaviour is prominent in autism.” can be true without implying that “only autistic people do this.”

But the general populace is so uninformed that they will get mad at autistic people for relating with each other in ways that often reassemble common autistic behaviours.

You will even have undiagnosed autistic people getting mad at diagnosed autistic people because “well i do that all the time.”

There’s a lot of general ignorance that should be dealt with before everyone starts witchhunting.

Also the common traits have a bias for behaviours found in middle class white boys, due to local relevant bias issues. So things like obsessing about trains, or something a parent would recognize their child doing, like making a neat orderly line.

These type of memes make things salient to those who haven’t considered before. Like one of my friends who inquired after relating to a lot of autistic socializing, not just one meme, but after inquiring they found they were diagnosed as a child and just never told, because it would apparently be too cruel to know you are autistic.

So you have autistic people just trying to relate to each other, and a bunch of undiagnosed or non autistic people getting mad at them for visibly existing in a way that doesn’t make sense unless you have a deep personal relationship with autistic behaviours, because “normal people do that too”

Similar to how people will enter autistic spaces, say autistic people are cringe and fake for self regulatory stimming behaviours, and get applauded by their ignorant audience who interprets it as “fake disorders cringe.” But you know, it’s better if autistic people have to worry about getting bullied so that they hide their traits like stimming, and then have a meltdown because the world feels like it’s exploding and there is no help, and pavlov says you will be punished if you stim. Fun fact, the people responsible for gay conversion therapy are also responsible for Pavlovian conditioning being the primary choice on how to ‘fix’ autistic people. This makes sense of you are familiar with complex group behaviours and surprisal reactions, but boils down to “if I don’t see it, it doesn’t exist, and we are going to ignore the rate of autistic suicide.” and any autistic people who don’t mask are socially okay to builly I guess.

But criticising people on the internet for overly relating to literal diagnostic criteria feels good, because “but I do this thing too” and “I am become justice” in a social environment that doesn’t know what autism is.

This is all the justification some people need to feel socially confirmed to just actively attack general autistic groups and their behaviours, because they are indistinguishable from people who “just want attention.”

And bullying an autistic person out of trying to socialize is obviously worth it, as long as we catch one of the fakers “stimming for attention” and totally not trying to embrace aspects of themselves that have been critiqued as “inappropriate ways of being.” from a life spent around non autistic people who need you to know you are existing wrong, because surprising elements take energy to deal with, and if you are autistic there is a decent chance the world doesn’t let you forget how weird you are.

We should promote active education rather than bullying and witchhunting maybe.

Actually a good general option for dealing with mass ignorance, including people who jump to diagnostic conclusions based on one single meme. I thought autistic people were the “binary thinkers” (this trait conveys nothing meaningful without a robust understanding of what is being directly referred to. Everyone should think of how much they’ve mapped the area being communicated, and I’d say that’s more important for bullies than supposed copycats who want to be perceived as the thing everyone is bullying.)

Also even if you are not autistic, it is okay to relate to things that autistic people heavily socialize a relation to. Different autistic communities are going to have different cultures around that too. Etc etc.