Ok so it is sort of the fact that it’s everywhere and pushed hard?

Maybe it’s simply:

1. Have aspects that people can strongly dislike eg the points people list
2. Be forced into everyone’s life and media constantly

Almost like a worse Nickelback effect or something

Things like factuality and informativeness have improved and continue to improve, but the hate only gets more widespread, so I don’t know if this covers the phenomenon

Good suggestion about looking into prominent speakers and see if any captures what people feel… but I think asking “people on the street” is valuable. Internet communities like these are the closest thing to asking people on the street not limited by geography.

I have looked into a bunch of these, and have ideas about the hate including the obvious lists, but I don’t think any of them actually capture why the hate is widespread

AI slop is bad, I don’t think anyone disagrees including all the people with careers in AI. I think the reason why it doesn’t stop anyone is because it’s seen as a byproduct of technological knowledge… basically the cat of how to generate such things is out of the bag, and the point of that cat was the knowledge of learning complex data. As I mentioned on another comment, you need to have this knowledge to begin to understand things like the brain as a system

Is neuroscience evil? How do you think humans understand more about the brain without the same knowledge? You can’t get there from proteins and biology and equations, at some point you have to start simulating large distributed systems of computation and learning.

Also I do understand a list of points of why it’s not liked as some posts have listed, just wondering if someone has insight onto why the hate seems to stick greater than the sum of those lists.

I’m sure you realize that most of what you say about morals is widely applicable to most technological revolutions that we accept. What is special about “AI” or is it an alignment point to signal things?

I see most of these points, but for some reason it feels like it doesn’t capture the magnitude and widespread hate. Has it just become a sticking point to signal anti American capitalism (I’m not trying to imply American capitalism is bad or good, just stating it)?

Yeah I am subscribed to this community

For your first point about me claiming “AI”: this channel is literally called “fuck AI”, I don’t care what it’s called, I’m just using the common language.

Your next points are about some negative companies/uses like palantir. Since you probably don’t hate other technologies that have bad uses as well as good ones, I am wondering what you think is especially bad about neural networks (did you form your own opinion or are you jumping on some identity?); hell, I don’t even know what you mean by kill lists for LLMs, and given the popularity I’m going to guess people find much use for them that aren’t this or bad.

Crabcar

Doesn’t this defeat the purpose, may as well merge then no?