That’s a fair point. And I might be holding on too much to it as a perfect ending when it really was never going to be. Those characters will always be too big not to come back, whether it’s another reboot, a recast, or a terrible AI homunculus.

Well, it’s a different ship, different crew, 80 years later. It may carry on from TOS thematically in a lot of ways, but they also did a lot narratively to keep them in their own respective sandboxes. And I think that was for the best.

I’ll compare it to the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Those films are very concerned with showing us what happened to Han, Luke, and Leia, and with replicating the backdrop and villains of the original films, and I think it’s largely to the detriment of really establishing the new characters as the stars of their own films. I think the TNG approach, keeping its distance to a much larger extent, was healthier.

Glad you do! I do actually think it’s decent TNG outing, and the 1701-D never looked better, but as something that supercede’s TUC’s very satisfying farewell to Shatner’s Kirk? It’s barely enough screen time to justify putting him on the poster, and no real new character development – TWoK already hammered home that a quiet life doesn’t suit him. I’d have preferred they let the TNG films stand on their own.

TIL Anson Mount is a doughy woman. Or are we referring to Rebecca Romijn? She’s not waifish enough for your taste?

Picard also dropped some French on occasion (memorably, “merde”), so the UT has definitely always had some mechanism to allow some flavour through.

Goldsman’s biggest regret was not being able to bring William Shatner back to play a version of Kirk who decided to stay in Depression-era New York with Edith Keeler (Joan Collins), a soup kitchen operator he fell in love with in the episode “The City on the Edge of Forever.”

I do think Star Trek needs to be less backwards looking, but giving Shatner one last farewell that isn’t a disappointment like Generations was wouldn’t have been the worst thing in the world.

I’ve always hated the new effects. Some of the matte painting replacements work pretty well, but the ship exterior stuff sticks out like a sore thumb.

Mission accomplished!

So instead he mangled the phrase so badly we’re still making fun of him for it twenty years later?

This is the way.

Trek V is so underrated. This entire scene in the observation lounge is gold.

Upvoted because I like to see some positivity about Picard, a show that certainly could have been great. I was very excited after the first episode, thought there was a huge amount of promise in the direction they were going. But it felt like they has a dozen good ideas and no plan on how to bring them together into a coherent story. It’s probably the most frustrating Trek show for that reason.

In fact, between this and the fact that the Engineering room set changed significantly between seasons 1 and 2, I’ve grown pretty partial to the idea that there are at least two and likely more rooms of a similar layout throughout the ship. Everybody wins.

Lots of debates about the internal arrangement of the original series Enterprise…

• Bridge: forward facing or offset?
• Engineering: primary or secondary hull?
• Shuttlebay: short or extending under the nacelle pylons?
• How big is this ship, anyway??

You know your stuff! Gotta say, of those terms “greebles” really does sound best to my ear.

Term coined by someone working on an obscure Star Trek knockoff in the 1970s. A little more warlike, as I recall, not really worth watching of course.

Human fucking is already doing that.

Interesting, I definitely remember getting a number of them from my local Toys R Us in the '90s. But that was Toronto (or rather Scarborough, since this was pre-amalgamation!) so maybe it varied by location.

Fair, I have no knowledge of what availability was like outside of the US/Canada. Totally agreed the franchise would likely be stronger if they had kept the game up. I remember some effort being made during the early Kelvin films, but that seemed to drop off pretty quick.

Watchutalkinbout, the ‘90s Playmates toys were great!