The python library chardet was recently recreated with all-new code, with a completely different structure and mechanism from the prior version, entirely by an LLM. It’s causing a huge fight in the community because the-- author? People get real snippy about language here. The guy who ran the LLM, incidentally also the only reliable maintainer of chardet for the last decade, said the new version is distinct and can’t be copyrighted so it’s BSD-licensed.
Minecraft seed-hunting ultranerds have thrown their esoteric cryptographic Java code into Claude, said “rewrite this as Rust,” and seen massive performance improvements.
I have seen several machining and robotics Youtubers hand-wave their way out of integration hell by letting the machine figure it out.
There’s a lot of damning things to say about LLMs and LLM coding, but a flat ‘it doesn’t work’ is wishful thinking.
I really wish we had a thing that does what I’m told it does. I think that would be cool. The weird fanatical pretending and cherry picking really gets to me. So much worse than it was with the equally useful nft’s
Even if these real examples were cherry-picked - they’re still real examples. In these cases, it did the thing. That success will be pursued, expanded, and streamlined, so it is more likely to do the thing. Comparisons to an outright scam are nonsense because this demonstrably functions.
It does not prove merit. Sorry. I don’t trust any ‘accomplishment’ of these systems in a field I do not understand thoroughly after being told about all their accomplishments in fields I did understand thoroughly that were bullshit pushed by people who only vaguely kind of understood what they were saying and were mostly wrong. Too many bullshit liars and cherry picking fanatics who understand nothing. Poisoned well.
Everything I can verify in support of your point from people on your side of this debate is spectacular obvious bullshit that falls apart the moment I actually look.
I just don’t trust lying liars who tell spectacular bullshit lies to not be lying when I don’t have the expertise to check.
Only works when what you want is surface bullshit. Because it makes surface bullshit. I guess uses for surface bullshit.
I know my software engineer compsci degree friends say its not helpful and has rendered actual resources useless. I’m going to trust general statements from experts I know over things from the sycophantic cultists of the bullshit pump that I cannot verify
Again: python schism, hardware integration, Minecraft wizard math. Insulting people who politely explain counterexamples won’t make those counterexamples disappear. It’s just sticking your fingers in your ears until they touch.
Reality is not defined by interpersonal trust, or by denial.
The python library chardet was recently recreated with all-new code, with a completely different structure and mechanism from the prior version, entirely by an LLM. It’s causing a huge fight in the community because the-- author? People get real snippy about language here. The guy who ran the LLM, incidentally also the only reliable maintainer of chardet for the last decade, said the new version is distinct and can’t be copyrighted so it’s BSD-licensed.
Minecraft seed-hunting ultranerds have thrown their esoteric cryptographic Java code into Claude, said “rewrite this as Rust,” and seen massive performance improvements.
I have seen several machining and robotics Youtubers hand-wave their way out of integration hell by letting the machine figure it out.
There’s a lot of damning things to say about LLMs and LLM coding, but a flat ‘it doesn’t work’ is wishful thinking.
I really wish we had a thing that does what I’m told it does. I think that would be cool. The weird fanatical pretending and cherry picking really gets to me. So much worse than it was with the equally useful nft’s
Fingers in ears is not an argument.
Even if these real examples were cherry-picked - they’re still real examples. In these cases, it did the thing. That success will be pursued, expanded, and streamlined, so it is more likely to do the thing. Comparisons to an outright scam are nonsense because this demonstrably functions.
It does not prove merit. Sorry. I don’t trust any ‘accomplishment’ of these systems in a field I do not understand thoroughly after being told about all their accomplishments in fields I did understand thoroughly that were bullshit pushed by people who only vaguely kind of understood what they were saying and were mostly wrong. Too many bullshit liars and cherry picking fanatics who understand nothing. Poisoned well.
Facts aren’t real because scams exist. Sure, dude.
I just don’t trust your shit and cannot verify.
Everything I can verify in support of your point from people on your side of this debate is spectacular obvious bullshit that falls apart the moment I actually look.
I just don’t trust lying liars who tell spectacular bullshit lies to not be lying when I don’t have the expertise to check.
Spectacular bullshit like ‘it kinda works sometimes.’
Only works when what you want is surface bullshit. Because it makes surface bullshit. I guess uses for surface bullshit.
I know my software engineer compsci degree friends say its not helpful and has rendered actual resources useless. I’m going to trust general statements from experts I know over things from the sycophantic cultists of the bullshit pump that I cannot verify
Again: python schism, hardware integration, Minecraft wizard math. Insulting people who politely explain counterexamples won’t make those counterexamples disappear. It’s just sticking your fingers in your ears until they touch.
Reality is not defined by interpersonal trust, or by denial.