• nosuchanon@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    LITERALLY NO ONE! STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS BULLSHIT HAPPEN!

    NOONE WANTS GAVIN NEWSOME EITHER. FUCK CA POLITICS.

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      16 days ago

      If she thinks running again is going to go well, she’d delusional.

      So yes, Kamala Harris wants Kamala Harris to run.

      • Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Only if they tricked Trump into another debate while Joe was on a lot of coke. At which point he would have had to step down right after the election anyway, due to his heart giving out.

        Joe never should have ran for a second term, and he should have known better than to try it.

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          16 days ago

          Originally, didn’t he claim he was not going to?

          I’m dubious he could have pulled it off, the feelings in groups I follow were… not good. He was too old, too ‘establishment’, there was no excitement.

          I guess we can’t know now, but when Kamala was announced there at least was some excitement. You know, before her campaign started actively sabotaging itself.

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            16 days ago

            He said he was only going to do one term really early on. Then once in office, that pipe dream evaporated. It was pretty much just some remarks during the campaign against Trump.

            As for pulling it off, he probably could have, just barely. Not that he had any more enthusiasm from anyone, but he would have kept a bigger part of the elderly vote who knew him well. At least if were able to stand up on stage with Trump and be lucid. My bet is that could only happen with a fairly heavy drug cocktail, that would lead to serious health problems fairly quickly. He fell apart right after the election anyway, so it very well might have killed him on the spot.

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              15 days ago

              He said he was only going to do one term really early on.

              No, he never said that. Anonymous people said that they thought he would, and when journalists immediately asked Biden he said he had no plans for running one term. No one remembers what Biden said, and for some reason take as gospel what anonymous people thought someone else would do.

              "I don’t have plans on one term,” Biden told reporters

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              15 days ago

              He said he was only going to do one term really early on

              I’ve heard this repeated so many times yet I’ve never heard those words come out of his mouth. Do you have a video?

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                15 days ago

                They’re not going to have video because he never said that.

                It stems from this Politico article in which anonymous people express their personal opinions about what someone else should do and for some reason everyone believes it was Biden personally making a pledge.

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                15 days ago

                It was anonymous members of his campaign. They never said it on camera because he never wanted to take a position on it, and no one really pressed it enough.

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              15 days ago

              I firmly believe he would have stayed out if Trump hadn’t been on the ticket. All they needed to do was have a justice department willing to put his ass away and Joe would have gone “My work here is done!” and rode off into the sunset.

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                All they needed to do was have a justice department willing to put his ass away

                And who’s fucking fault was that?!

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      15 days ago

      Hilarious take. Biden’s campaign was over the second he stumbled onto that debate stage. They might as well have started writing the autopsy then

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          15 days ago

          My controversial opinion is that if he’d never run in the first place and made sure Harris played a significant role in his administration, she could have had a shot at winning it with a full campaign. If she were a white male it would have maybe even been easy. The Democrats will never run a truly progressive candidate, and as proven in Kentucky this week the over 60 voting block still matters most.

          And yes, if you can’t tell I have absolutely no hope for US politics. But I’ll still at least vote for whoever isn’t the fascist every time.

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            I think the problem is they tried this. Kamala was frontlined initially by the Biden admin. She was crazy unpopular, a bad public speaker, and really terrible off the cuff on questions. She’s just a very poor politician, or maybe a politico from an era that doesn’t exist anymore.

            The most support she had was when Biden dropped, before she talked. If Biden had dropped later and the elation and excitement that was generated by him dropping out was carried into the general, Kamala wins imo.

            I keep hearing she needed more time, no. She needed less time, the country had forgotten she sucked when Biden dropped, she had plenty of time to remind them.

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      16 days ago

      As much as I wish this could have happened, Joe’s chances were even worse than hers. Every time he got behind a podium, his polling numbers dove even further.

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    16 days ago

    If she wanted to run, she should be out there fighting facism. I’m not interested in voting for someone who’s just letting all this shit happen.

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      15 days ago

      I’ve only seen her when she wanted to sell her book on speed-running losing an election.

      She could be on TV and podcasts, 24/7 presenting the alternative and pointing out all the ways Trump is breaking the law and conning the country.

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        15 days ago

        She could be showing up to or even leading protests and marches, writing editorials and opinion columns, appearing on news channels and podcasts. She could be speaking out, rallying people in opposition. She could’ve shown up at any of the big protests this past year, posted comments on social media.

        I have seen absolutely nothing from her this past year except a couple of tepid comments about maybe running for office again.

        I get it: she had a high-profile job, was thrown into a crushing high-stakes election at the last minute, spent a lot of energy campaigning and got her hopes crushed. But she’s had a year and a half to get over it, and there’s still nothing.

        The country needs a leader and a fighter. She’s doing neither. Hard pass.

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          15 days ago

          She could be, and people would be telling her “You lost, shut up and go away.”

          She doesn’t have the platform.

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            15 days ago

            She doesn’t have the platform.

            No one just gives you a platform - you make it. You show up at whatever opportunity can find or make and say your thing - and she’s not doing it. Hell, I’ve heard five times more anti-Trump / anti-regime stuff from Mark Hamill on Twitter/BlueSky than I have from her, and that’s like one of the most low-effort things you can do, yet she hasn’t made even one anti-whatever tweet a month. Hell, she wouldn’t even have to do it herself, she could hire a part-time college student or something.

            She’s not tweeting, she’s not on podcasts advocating for her positions, she’s not on opinion shows or editorial pages saying “what’s happening is wrong and here’s a way to fix it”. It’s been dead silence from her for a year and a half.

            If she’s not willing to go out and fight for a job she’s wanted for well over a decade, I can’t trust her to fight for the things _I_ want.

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              15 days ago

              You can’t make a platform when people are not only not actively listening to you, but are actually telling you to shut up and sit down.

              Did you see the reactions to her book?

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            She doesn’t have the platform because she threw it away. She was never a serious candidate to solve anything. She was never going to fight for the working class or the minorities, because in the end she cared more about selling a book than the people. She is the exact thing wrong with almost every single democrat politician. She cares more about what she can make, than what she can do.

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          There is no DNC person out there fighting beside AOC. She does the work and I am with her for whatever office she runs for and I am all the way in the mountains of NC. My district is Tim Moore that Sméagol looking mother fucker. The NC DNC has done nothing to help the Democratic candidates in the western part of the state for years. Lakesha Womack is who the NC DNC is propping up and I have not seen or heard from her at any protest I have been to. I am sure no one in the 14th knows who she is outside of Gastonia. I digress.

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    I think so little of American voters that I just assume the democrats could pick any white man and win. For whatever reason, a large portion (i.e., the uneducated) of the American public is too sexist to vote for a female democratic president. The minute the republicans put one forward as a serious candidate, suddenly then it will be great.

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      Same. At least 2/3 of voters wouldn’t vote for a minority woman. Acknowledge that first, then you can change.

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    15 days ago

    This bitch lost the presidency to the worst piece of shit on the face of the planet. Why in the fuck does she think she has any chance trying to run again?

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    15 days ago

    They needed someone out there on day 1 after the election to be the face and the presence of the DNC as a clear personality for the next run. Instead it’s likely you will get someone in the last five minutes.

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    15 days ago

    The fact that there’s even a whiff of Kamala running again is great evidence that we are so fucked and will continue to be so fucked.

    • KelvarCherry [They/Them]@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      15 days ago

      To be fair, Hillary Clinton floated running again in 2020 and she never even launched that campaign. I don’t think there’s much intent behind this. I suppose it makes these former candidates feel special, or satiates some craving for attention :P

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        15 days ago

        The US has a 2-party system. Period. Until we change things in a constitutional convention, or a revolt of some kind, that won’t change.

        There should be a constitutional convention every 50 years. The laws from 200+ years ago are somewhat stale and very susceptible to manipulation.

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          I’ve also thought a constitutional convention might be the only way to fix things.

          But also, I think there’s no way, practically speaking, that the right wing doesn’t use that opportunity better than the left wing, to simply give us a new fascist constitution.