From the article:
A bill making its way through the North Carolina Legislature states it would be permissible for a person to use deadly force on a woman they believe is seeking an abortion, something Democrats have branded as “wildly extreme.”
The legislation, now only backed by Republican State Representative Keith Kidwell, would classify abortion as first-degree murder and open up the right of another person to defend the life of the unborn baby as they see fit.
“Any person has the right to defend his or her own life or the life of another person, even by the use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person,” the bill reads. “The State has an interest and a duty to defend innocent persons from willful destruction of their lives and to punish those who take the lives of persons, born or unborn, who have not committed any crime punishable by death.”
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/republican-bill-deadly-force-stop-abortions-north-carolina-12005136
Nothing says being pro-unborn-child like murdering the mother while she’s pregnant. That’d really protect the fetus.
Who am I kidding? It’s really a cover hoping that someone will storm in and kill the doctors.
It’s going to be legal to murder women in North Carolina?
If they are on birth control and have a fertilized egg that could be killed by said birth control, the bill authourized lethal force.
That’s not how birth control medication works
I think the point is that the people making these laws are extremely ignorant about human biology
Abusers do love killing pregnant women.
Wait wait wait. Let me make sure I understand. In order to save the fetus you would kill the only entity capable of keeping it alive?
it was never about the fetus
I’m old enough to remember all these assholes gaslighting about how rolling back Roe won’t “really” bring about Gilead states.
I had at least one poster trying to get me banned from Denver Post forums for saying it, by the way. Apparently they found the comparison to Gilead to be hurtful and against community guidelines and not sufficiently milquetoast or whatever. Gotta love the Tone Police.
I asked the “Ask Conservatives” subreddit if they thought murdering a doctor about yo perform an abortion would be a just killing. I guess I have my answer.
You remember how they were looking up taking braindead women and using their bodies as human incubators? Seems kinda related
Let’s kill the mothers, that’ll save the children.
Makes perfect sense.
wildly extreme
Uhhh. I mean. They’re not wrong per say… 😅
He’s advocating murdering pregnant women; wildly extreme doesnt quite seem to cover it
Per se
Interesting, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen it typed before! Thank you! ☺️
It’s “wildly extreme” in the same way that the East India Company “cared about profit”
Pro-life, amiright?
How any woman could vote Republican is beyond me.
It’s like a black person voting for the KKK
Like wtf is wrong with you?
They vote whoever their priests tell them to vote for, because apparently, church-state separation was something made up by woke liberals or something.
Artificially limited options in the voting booth?
How any woman could vote Republican is beyond me.
because “The only moral abortion is my abortion”
because " I’m against this because those filthy non-whites use it, but its okay once I need it"
because " I support this because it hurts people that arent me " ( cue inevitable wailing about the unfairness and cruelty of it all when it comes home to hurt them too.)
In one word: hypocrisy
One of people’s historical favorite passtimes
“I never thought the leopards would eat my face”
- Person who voted for the “Leopards Eating Faces Party” after having their face eaten.
The only psycho backing this bill is Keith Kidwell who represents the tiny coastal district 79.
they aren’t pro-life. they eagerly yearn for killing those they can’t control.
Let’s do a little transitive property game.
The bill presupposes that there is an absolute moral duty to protect the unborn.
A theoretical woman is considering an abortion, so it must therefore be okay to murder her.
Therefore, it is okay to murder someone to protect an unborn person.
This bill would make it okay to murder women to protect the unborn.
But that would kill the unborn!
So, it must therefore be okay to kill in order to prevent this bill from passing.
So by this bill’s own logic, it would be morally correct to kill Keith Kidwell.
ALL OF THE ABOVE IS PURELY AN EXERCISE IN ARGUMENTUM AD ABSURDUM AND NOT AN ACTUAL PROPOSAL. DO NOT DO MURDERS.
Wait a second… If someone is going to kill the mother, they are almost certainly killing the fetus. Therefore wouldn’t it be totally legal to shoot anyone who is trying to shoot a pregnant woman as your defending the fetus too?
make it legal to murder women for having abortions
effectively makes it legal to murder women who are pregnant
now you may legally murder / assault any woman, under the guise she was pregnant/was going to have an abortion, if the woman is even a little bit pro abortion or just isn’t a pro”life” psycho, it will be proven that “this man believed she had endangered her baby within reasonable doubt”
Not only would this allow people to murder women with near impunity, but it is just another piece of legislation that is attempting to legalize Republicans killing any democrat, leftist or otherwise. They tried to do it with Rittenhouse, J6, and inch closer and closer with their “legal” jargon like this all the time, now
I firmly believe this is the end goal of American and other oligarch capitalists when it comes to laws like this. I really hope it would be like “fighting words” where it’s not very enforceable in practice, but that doesn’t matter when women are being killed or even dying being denied healthcare.
They don’t care about the “unborn”. They want to force you to have children so your children can become their worker slaves or even worse with what we’ve seen in all this Epstein stuff. God I hate this place
We’re a Christian nation after all.
Praise be 🥲😵💫🙏🛐
Ummm. Wouldn’t that also kill the baby?
When was the last time someone checked the lead levels in the drinking water in North Carolina?
When was the last time someone checked the lead levels in the drinking water in North Carolina?
It’s the US. I’m sure it was checked, found to be dangerously high, they determined that work needed to be done immediately and then it just wasn’t done.
If you close one eye and then the other, it doesn’t look that bad.
The fact that they have any hope left in their lives is their most admirable quality.
That would only be relevant if their intent was to protect unborn fetuses.
Not necessarily.
By the time any death penalty (execution) would actually occur the birth would have ample time to come to term, if it was viable.
That’d be interesting though. I suppose the mother could continue to attempt to abort the pregnancy while incarcerated.
? the deadly force would be used against the pregnant woman thus killing her and the baby
People aren’t necessarily good lethal shots. Modem medicine is amazing. And funny enough. That dimwit just might consider that and shoot below the waist. To incapacitate but not kill. This is an important distinction in many jurisdictions.
The irony being the perpetrator of an attempted murder would enjoy freedom while the victim of an attempted murder would be incarcerated.
Ultimately, the value of life is arbitrary.
It’s amazing how people think they can just talk around a point and no one will notice what a coward they are.
You’re just kinda, saying words, huh? Like an ai but somehow worse?
It’s never been able the babies. It’s about abusing and controlling women.
If they cared about kids, they would be angry about Trump and the other republicans raping them.
You’re assuming the bill is about mothers. When you realize it’s about doctors, things make more sense.
They do understand killing the mother kills the fetus too right?
Understanding is too big of a word for MAGA.
