• IronBird@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      why would the US want to replace Putin, it was the US that helped his rise to power.

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        25 days ago

        Russia opposes many foreign policy projects in the middle east and other places. Syria and many other examples. Russia really doesn’t play ball.

        And this probably isn’t a reason for “them” but personally I hate Putin’s Russia for spreading first climate denial and for decades not agitprop propaganda and supporting fascist actors in many European countries. Our neoliberal for-profit plutocrat owned social media network have had a massive negative effect on democracy, mostly because actors like Russia use the opportunity that profit oriented social media isn’t going to pay for moderators or detecting botnets.

        I would have much preferred peace instead of the US and Nato instigating the Ukraine war (Russia simply had no choice but to attack, imagine what the US would do with a China aligned Mexico) but it’s not really like I give a shit about Putin’s Russia. It’s just that neither the Ukrainians or Russian people deserve to suffer and die, or how much wealth is transferred for this stupid war, or the long term negative consequences of a radicalized fascist Ukraine will have on Europe, or the complete conformism of all “left” media and leftists denial or reality. Anyways

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      26 days ago

      So Russians stepped into an american trap by invading a neighboring country with which they have signed a peace treaty and gave security guarantees to?

      States worked for years for regime change in Ukraine, supported leftists (mostly naive anarchists)

      Lol.

      The Ukrainian people don’t deserve what’s happening to them, but they should be just as angry at the western puppets as they are at Russia.

      Correct me if Im wrong but its Russians sending a nightly bombardment of their homes?

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          25 days ago

          So Germany was again collaborating with Russia against the will of central and eastern European states and Russia gives itself the right to determine what they do? We have been invaded by the Russian empire before, just as well as the Prussian.

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              24 days ago

              Mate, why would I care about US media? I was around in the early 2000 and we were quite concerned about Russia butchering Chechnya. To the point of being very open to Muslim refugees, which is not something Polish society ever does. Also most of the population supported joining NATO and EU against our protests, for the very reason of threat from Russia. This empire has been our oppressor for some 300 years. Go bullshit some naïve westerners, not the people who’s right to self determination you freely give away.

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                  23 days ago

                  You even read anything of my comments? Or you just stuck on your script where everything outside of “NATO bad Russia good” is to much to handle? For the last years we’ve been constantly hearing about what we’re allowed to do in our borders from Russians regularly threatening us with dropping the bombs on us. What would legitimate self defence be for that if we were Russian ourselves?
                  Cuz it sure seems like Russia is the only nation on earth blessed to do anything it wishes against the will of us all living next to its borders. All interest of Russia is above any of the people of Eastern Europe, as westerners always believed. I’m so sorry to have questioned your wisdom sir.