Asked whether a potential meeting would take place in the US or in a different place, Trump replied, “I don’t know. I haven’t really heard too much about it.” He continued, “I didn’t suggest it [a meeting], but some people have suggested it.”
“If it happened, it would be happening. I’d be respectful.” White House correspondent Peter Doocy, co-anchor of The Sunday Briefing for Fox News, then asked the president, “Do you think because Epic Fury killed his dad and his wife and his kid that he has hard feelings?”
Trump said, “Well, I would say I’m not his favorite person, but with that being said, he’s probably a professional. In some circles he has a very good reputation, actually.”
This is a common circle for people like us to run around in.
Yes, there are many individuals who are doing a lot, punching far above their weight class.
My point is when I boycott American products, advocate for the US to be punished politically and economically, when I spread the message loud and clear where I am that “America is the enemy”, that necessitates putting YOU in the crosshairs of my actions.
Do I love that? No, we’re on the same team. Is that going to stop me? Absolutely not.
The best analogy I can think of is sports. I’m gonna hate your hockey team because they’re our rival, they play dirty on the ice, etc. One of your players might feed the hungry and use their money to build orphanages, but that doesn’t change the fact that I’ll be cheering for your team to fail.
Maybe there’s nothing else you can possibly do. Truly. Life’s not fair. But you and I both know that the average American citizen is doing basically nothing. That’s the “person” I’m talking to when I post things like this. I can’t individually judge 350 million people, so I have to address your average. Your average sucks.
I am prepared to die in this country.
I do not deserve to die in this country, I don’t choose to live here.
But because I am transgender, my federal government explicitly wants me dead.
And the populations of other countries do not care for my survival, because I was born on an overseas American military base, and then brought here as a child, means I am a citizen of this evil empire.
And I understand that even though I myself am not evil, I am a member of an evil empire, and my government and large portions of the outside world want me injured or dead in some way.
But I am scrappy and I have a heart full of love and beauty.
And I outlived Charlie Kirk.
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Notice the difference? Me neither.
Uh the difference is being anti-American is clearly and objectively the correct stance and your country brought it on yourselves.
Iran’s government are no saints, but they sure as shit aren’t the aggressors in this situation. So fuck off, it is not remotely the same
Sure, you can be against the US government, especially the current administration. I’m against the current administration. I voted against them. Stop trying to pin responsibility on people who don’t even support what’s happening.
The US/Israeli of Iran was illegal and uncalled for, and I’m firmly opposed to it. No one here is saying otherwise. We’re saying that you generalizing the actions of the US government to the entire population, despite widespread disapproval, is wrong. And it’s no different than someone blaming the people of Iran for the actions of the regime. Those people didn’t deserve to die. Most of them were protesting against their own government.
In both cases, the issue is prejudice. And you can’t deflect from that by making strawman arguments against points that I’m not even making.
If the people of Iran were as complacent as the American people I would blame them too.
They’ve been far, FAR braver than Americans, and in the face of way more brutal oppression. And for a long time too. I would never compare the Iranian people to the American people. That would be a huge insult to the Iranian people.
That’s interesting, cause you seem like the type that was accusing the Iranian protestors of being CIA plants.
Yeah, I’ve supported the New Iran movement since it first hit my radar in 2022 when Mahsa Amini was killed.
The thing is, I didn’t compare the Iranian people to the American people. I compared your logic to the trump logic.
It must’ve gone right over your head for you to extract that nugget from it. And your continuance to try to deflect by mischaracterizing what I’m saying is nothing more than a strawman.
How fucking stupid does one have to be to equate boycotting US brands and launching a fucking tomahawk missile at an elementary school. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Let’s back up a bit for those with selective amnesia. This is how this comment chain started:
If you don’t see how the exact same logic is at play, then I can’t help you. Equivalent logic structures (invalid though they be) doesn’t imply equal severity, and I’m tired of the disingenuous argument that it does.
Like the classic: “I’m suffering” “NO YOU’RE NOT, BECAUSE I’M SUFFERING MORE!!!”
Let me guess, you probably also think every German is a nazi and every Jew is a zionist? Cause that’s the same kind of generalization you’re making. The same kind of fallacy that the US and Israel have weaponized to rationalize murdering civilians across the middle east.
The complacent public in Germany were absolutely at fault. The complacent public in Israel were absolutely at fault.
Not every American is MAGA, but every American that just shrugs and says “I’ve got bigger fish to fry” while they can absolutely do more is absolutely at fault.
Red line after red line after red line and no real resistance? Cowards.
Tell me, what will you do when Trump is not removed in November after elections (if they even happen)? When your illusion of your checks and balances saving you finally falls apart completely? You have 5 months left. Maybe spend some time thinking about that.
As a human, I love you.
Maybe it’s on me, but after comparing boycotting mcdonalds to a literal war crime… to come back by trying to convince me to cut Nazi Germany some slack.
You do you. I always say to people now, that you never now need to guess what you’d have done if you were in nazi Germany, it’s whatever you’re doing now.
I don’t expect everyone to have taken a Crack at hitler. Or to have sabotaged a fuel truck. Or have sheltered a Jew.
But, apparently, what YOU would have done is write scathing rebuttals to the Allies who were critical of the bystanders. You would have been arguing that the rest of the world was asking too much of the German people.
Well said. Very well said.
When did I say anything about cutting nazi Germany slack? Is that how you interpret questioning whether you think every German is a nazi? Cause if so you either need to work on your reading comprehension, or get over your teutophobia.
Plenty of people in nazi Germany were against the regime. They couldn’t leave much of a public record, for obvious reasons, but they were there. There was a German resistance, but it didn’t last very long before getting crushed.
What you’re arguing is essentially that the Allied forces making their way through Germany should have been roughing up civilians, because they were Germans and apparently, according to you, that makes them nazis.
That is a terrible argument, and fortunately one that most sane people reject outright. But you’re making it here about USians, many of whom don’t support the current administration.
Focus all your ire on the administration, on trump supporters and the entire maga movement, on congressional republicans, on supreme court conservatives, on billionaire oligarchs and the right-wing media, hell even on DINO spoiler voter members of congress and the complacent, centrist, and corporatist leadership of the democratic party. You’ll get no argument from me there.
But to accuse the entire US population? That’s no different than blaming the civilians living under any other dictatorship, and if you continue to insist that you’re in the right for doing so then you can kindly fuck off.
Where have i suggested anything even remotely similar to the allies roughing up the German citizenry? Violence at all?
I get that you’re mad. For some reason you’re desperate for someone to acknowledge you’re “one of the good ones” or something.
First of all, that is pathetic, period.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m sure your identity is multifaceted. And, ultimately, I pass no judgement on you as a complete human. I’m unsatisfied by your comprehension of your own situation. Im unsatisfied by your comprehension of the world. I’m unsatisfied at your ability to read. Im unsatisfied by your capacity for first order logic. I think you are very thin skinned.
But you’re passionate. You write well. You say “fuck”. You have an instinct to “defend” your “kin”. You don’t know when to quit. You’re obviously incredibly optimistic. I admire and respect all of those things about you.
People are multidimensional. I don’t think you’re a bad guy. Nothing you’ve said makes me think you’re great or anything, but like… you’re allowed in my house?
It starts with demonization. If you don’t see the direct line between demonizing an entire populace and acts of violence being committed against them, then I don’t know what else to tell you. Are we suppose to wait for egregious acts of violence to occur before we can call out prejudice?
Your plausible deniability that you’re relying on is the same thing stochastic terrorists rely on to maintain their innocence. “I didn’t kill that person! I only put their address online and said they were an asshole!”
No, you’re again missing the point entirely. I don’t need you to acknowledge me as “one of the good ones,” because I categorically reject your offhand generalization and vilification of the entire populace. I’m telling you that you’re wrong; not begging for your approval.
Get this through your head: I DON’T NEED TO SATISFY YOU!
I don’t owe you anything. I don’t need to prove myself to you. I don’t need to demonstrate my comprehension to you. I’m not obliged to you in any way, and you’re not entitled to make demands upon me that I do. You’re judging without knowledge, which is the definition of prejudice.
I’M NOT IN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE.
I literally just now wrote two paragraphs trying to humanized you, the exact opposite of demonizing anyone. Praising your good qualities, even.
Then you come back, shrieking like a banshee, continuing to not read or think. Really trying your hardest to reinforce every negative American stereotype.
I think, genuinely, the best thing you could do if your goal is to try and have the world think better of Americans as a whole, would be to just shut the fuck up. Every single post you make, I think less and less of you personally. You’re making me work harder than I want to remind myself that you don’t represent a whole country. You frankly are no more endearing than a MAGA. The specific flavour of your stupidity is admittedly different, but it certainly isn’t significantly less concerning. You’re just as illiterate, just as fear mongering/unaccountable (“OH please, don’t you see how what you’re saying is the precursor to a genocide?”, you say, as someone points out YOU are ACTUALLY funding an ACTIVE genocide).
Again, can’t stress this enough, if you are concerned about the common perspective of Anericans as a whole, you really really really should keep your mouth shut. Better to be silent and thought to be an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt kinda scenario for you.