ok so sorry if this sounds like a nonsensical rambling to you, i’ve just had an enlightenment

so for a while now i’ve known about the aristotelian 4 elements worldview that says that the world is composed of consecutive layers laying on top of each other.

there’s at least two variants of it: for the living and for the dead world. i.e. when you have living beings in the world or not. when there are living beings, the four layers are (from bottom to top): rocks, plants, animals, spirits (i.e. ideas / politics). each layer needs the lower one to feed itself, i.e. animals feed off plants. meanwhile they give resources to the upper layer to get their services, i.e. plants get their fruit eaten but get their seeds carried around.

for the dead, there’s four layers: rocks, water, air, energy (i.e. fire / sunlight). for example, the water corresponds to the plants because in every pond, algae start to grow etc.

now, what has bothered me is that rocks appear in both listings, which is weird. i think that the dirt is alive kinda solves this, because rocks (dead) and rocks (living) are not the same anymore. one is settled with microorganisms, the other one is not.

eh, idk whether that makes sense to you. have a nice day.

  • neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz
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    5 hours ago

    The ability to categorise and tease out common attributes is one of the foundations of science because it lets you make predictions. If something is true of most plants then it is probably true of this specific plant. The next step beyond this primal science is to formulate a hypothesis and test it. If I combine these two metals they should have some of the properties of both sources. Let’s test that at different ratios and temperatures. The problem with Greek proto science is that it’s as much theology and guessing as observation, and they thought they could reason out nature without experimenting.

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    4 hours ago

    Why isn’t water on both? That’s far more important to plant life than rocks.

    I don’t think your layers make much sense.