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I don’t understand how people can follow a command like this and then go home and sleep at night.
This is literally what the US has been doing for 70 years.
Doesn’t change the question.
The answer is propaganda.
People with thoughtful morals don’t join the military. Sociopaths, moral LARPers, and desperate people do.
Well as a subordinate who is given illegal orders they’re kind of fucked there’s no good choice so that’s why it was so important for commanders to only issue legal orders. So they don’t put their men in a bad legal situation.
If a solider doesn’t follow the command they’re given probably going to be found guilty of insubordination, regardless of whether it is illegal or not. They’ll probably be called a criminal, lose all the benefits that come from service, or possibly be executed according to this administration.
If a soldier follows illegal orders like these then they can be charged as war criminals and executed.
The ONLY way to be able to refuse illegal orders is to have an enormous amount of support from other soldiers and the judge advocate General’s office. Which are resources your average soldier doesn’t have. Yes the Uniform Code of Military Justice says following illegal orders is illegal but the reality is very different.
Aka, more war crimes committed by the regime in charge of the USA.
We didn’t get 9/11ed enough. We deserve way more.
Goliath holding open auditions for the role of David
Humanitarian law is also designed to protect civilian objects, including those indispensable to the survival of the civilian population. Article 29 of the Convention on the law relating to the non-navigational uses of international watercourses [available on http://www.un.org/], adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations in 1997, stipulates:
“International watercourses and related installations, facilities and other works shall enjoy the protection accorded by the principles and rules of international law applicable in international and non-international armed conflict and shall not be used in violation of those principles and rules”.
General protection under the law applicable to armed conflicts extends to more than international watercourses, and the four main prohibitions laid down in that law are worth noting:
the ban on employing poison or poisonous weapons; the ban on destroying, confiscating or expropriating enemy property; the ban on destroying objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population; the ban on attacking works or installations containing dangerous forces.
The four prohibitions, to which should be added the provisions on environmental protection, are expressly mentioned in the instruments relating to international armed conflicts, and the last two are also laid down in the law applicable to non-international armed conflicts. Starvation as a method of warfare is explicitly prohibited regardless of the nature of the conflict, and the concept of objects essential for the survival of the civilian population includes drinking-water installations and supplies and irrigation works. Immunity for indispensable objects is waived only when these are used solely for the armed forces or in direct support of military action. Even then, the adversaries must refrain from any action which could reduce the population to starvation or deprive it of essential water.
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/water-and-armed-conflicts
Really pushing for that Greatest Satan moniker.
I love America. Every time I see them helping kill someone I get a boner!!! /s
Where is the UN ?
International doesn’t apply to the powerful.
Where is the UN when russia sends drones straight in Chornobyl confinement unit for shits and giggles and proceeds to brag about it for months? Same shit, pal.
The UN and what army? The UN is nothing more than neutral ground where diplomats and envoys can safely talk to each other. It has no more power than the member states are willing to give it. The US, China, Russia and Israel will never give it the power to intervene in their wars.
Probably writing strongly worded letters to Iran telling them to capitulate to the US.
Eh in this case its not really that. Most members are staying out of it or condemning the axis of evil (us+israel). Now when I say “condemning” I mean some interview with a government person saying something along the lines of “well it is not a good thing blatant war crimes are going on but we in insert nation would never do such things”
The UN has no execurive power and stste members pretend veto really matter so they don’t act
Watching the world police exterminate Iranians
Trump replaced it with his own pay to play version. Since he no longer cares about what the UN thinks, he’s no longer bound by what the UN says.
America never was, lol.
let’s not pretend he’s the first president to do so. the lineage of presidents not giving a shit what UN says is rather long. Like every president since Truman.
Hey this happened in Spec Ops the Line
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If you count all the war crimes committed by US soldiers, regardless of who was president, you will come to the conclusion that the US is an imperial, colonial, exploitative power.
Previously, they hid behind diplomacy, the UN, “freedom”, “democracy”. Donald Trump has portrayed the US as it has been all these years after the Second World War, selfish, greedy, without a shred of empathy.
That is why some Americans cannot stand Trump because he exposes them for what they are.
To prepare mentally for if and when Iranians target US civilian infrastructure, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDhuDBjZIkg
Meanwhile, the rest of the world thinks that it’s okay to remain entirely silent when the US breaches the Geneva Convention.
Most countries remain silent but are very much against the US.
they are silent because ISRAEL INSTIGATED It, and they dont want to offend either country right now.
The thing is, most countries are digitally dependent on the US, like on Microsoft. The vast majority of enterprises and governments use stuff like Windows and Microsoft Teams and switching to FOSS alternatives can take years. So the fear is that countries criticize Trump and the US too harshly, that Trump could just cut them off, and governments and enterprises would have their digital infrastructure bricked.
imperialism <—> terrorism
Ukraine destroys russian refineries…
Ahhh yes, those refineries that are essential to human life. That’s definitely a fair comparison to depriving people of water in a desert country.
Russia destroys Ukrainian power plant.
If Iran bombed the US/their allies we wouldn’t complain because they’re not the aggressor.
And to stop that happening all Russia has to do is go home. It’s not complex which really calls into question the intelligence of those who won’t understand it.
“Hey! You possibly shot down a military helicopter from us while it was performing illegal operations within your territory! That goes too far, fuck the Geneva convention, you will pay!”
Oh, so now Americans can’t commit war crimes? Who’s next? Zionists? You? Me?
First they came for the African warlords with child soldiers, and I did not speak up, because I was not an African warlord with child soldiers.
