Thousands of Southern Baptists overwhelmingly voted Wednesday to advance a formal ban on women pastors in the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, sending a clear message that men alone should preach to these conservative evangelical congregations.
This isn’t an American issue, it’s a Christian issue. Christian church structure doesn’t answer to secular morality.
Banning churches is religious bigotry.
Morality isn’t subjective. Morality has an objective foundation. For a Christian, that objective foundation for morality is found within The Bible correctly interpreted and read within context. The Bible forbids women from holding authority over men in ecclesial matters. Therefore it cannot be morally wrong.
My religion says that I am morally obligated to beat you up and steal your car, so how dare you argue that I shouldn’t.
You’re a religious bigot if you try to tell me that following the tenets of my faith are wrong.
Just because a book says a thing doesn’t make it right or justified, and crying about being a victim while actively supporting oppression doesn’t make you a champion of good.
You might want to read up on the “No true Scotsman” fallacy too.
I am not a part of your religion. So why should it affect me? The ecclesial structure of churches doesn’t affect you. If you want to form a religion where consenting converts are obliged to beat each other up and be beaten up and steal each others cars, why should I object
Several reasons. First, humans have already decided that intentionally causing harm is not something we condone as a society, even under the guise of cultural or religious exemption. Largely, because it assumes that every single person part of the religion is there voluntarily, which is demonstrably false.
Secondly, it DOES affect me. There is an active effort to erode the separation of church and state, meaning Christian values are being actively imposed on those who do not claim any affiliation with Christianity. Southern Baptist, being the largest denomination in the south, is increasingly active in politics.
And lastly, I 100% agree that people within a religion should make absolutely no attempt to control the lives of those NOT within their religion. But that is not what we see.
If you’re vying for leadership, you are definitely there voluntarily.
That’s a separate issue - here it seems people want to impose secular values on the way the Southern Baptists do things. You can’t have it one way (In most cases, I do condemn the imposition of Christianity on the general secular public)
And lastly, I 100% agree that people within a religion should make absolutely no attempt to control the lives of those NOT within their religion. But that is not what we see.
I agree to a point. I think it is okay for Christians to be involved in politics, and a lot of those Christians would have their opinions and views originate from their philosophy which is rooted in Christianity. So these will be ideals that life is sacred, that the marginalised and oppressed should be uplifted, that people should be forgiven, etc. However, I wouldn’t see why things like adultery, polygamy, homosexuality, fornication or idolatry between consenting adults should be prohibited. If people want to be free to destroy themselves and make bad decisions, they have the right to do so as long as it isn’t harming others