No public opposition, but some very quiet private opposition? No worries, there’s a method to end run around an errant legislature in most US states: https://www.ohiosos.gov/office/duties-and-responsibilities/putting-an-issue-on-the-ballot/citizen-initiated-constitutional-amendment
Senate Bill 341 would have ended a loophole letting 17-year-olds marry legal adults up to four years older than them
What’s wrong with that???
17+4=21 21/2=10.5 10.5+7=17.5
It fails the basic decency test by 6 months!
Lol
Not surprised, just disappointed. The state government doesn’t care about its citizens, morality, or popular opinion on issues.
My ex married her first husband when she was a minor in Ohio and it really fucked her up.
This feels like a game of, all together now, “Which Evil Is It??”
Is it because they are abusive pedophiles who want fodder for their kind, or is it because they are evil capitalists who want fodder for their factories?
Por que no los dos, am I right?
Ohio is fucked. It has been. Something is fundamentally wrong with Ohio.
no public opposition
If you go online and insult the Epstein class you’ll likely get hatemail about how you’re not being fair. The opposition is very private and individualized.
I’m certain if we checked the local Fox News station there was plenty of opposition floating around
Tracks for Ohio
I read the article but was not really understanding WHY anyone would be opposed to ending it, so I went looking for more information. Turns out the group sponsoring the legislation, Unchained At Last, has its own site, and much more information than is in the article, as well as maps showing how many states have outlawed child marriage altogether, as well as the handful of states where you can be married at 18 but not be legally adult until 21, which is still a form of legal underage marriage.
I had my eyes opened. There is much more information on each of these in the website, but the four reasons they state for needing to end underage marriage are:
Child marriage can easily be forced marriage. The age of majority, when children become legal adults and get the rights of adulthood, is 18 or higher in every U.S. state. Children who have not yet reached the age of majority have limited legal rights and therefore can easily be forced into marriage or forced to stay in a marriage. They face overwhelming legal and practical barriers if they try to leave home to escape a forced marriage, get help from an advocate, enter a domestic violence shelter or retain an attorney. Perhaps most shockingly, children typically are not allowed to initiate a legal proceeding – such as seeking a protective order or even filing for divorce – unless they act through a guardian or other representative. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights categorizes all child marriage as forced marriage.
Child marriage destroys nearly every aspect of American children’s lives, including their health, education and economic opportunities. It even undermines their physical safety: Individuals in the U.S. who were married before age 18 report high rates of physical, sexual, financial or emotional abuse during their marriage as well as unwanted or unplanned pregnancies.
Child marriage undermines statutory rape laws. In most states and under federal law, sex with a child that would otherwise be considered rape – in some cases, felony rape – becomes legal within marriage. In those situations, the marriage license becomes a “get out of jail free” card for a child rapist.
Child marriage can also be a form of human trafficking. Due to loopholes in immigration laws, thousands of American girls are being trafficked legally for their citizenship, forced to marry adult men from overseas so the men can get a U.S. visa. Similarly, American men are legally importing child brides from overseas.
So now the question becomes one of understanding what’s in it for the Republicans in Ohio to leave the situation as-is, and I think that pretty much answers itself. Case closed.
I was sort of in the same headspace as you. I graduated high school at 17, and some of my friends married their high school sweethearts that June. I dated a senior as a freshman, so if we had gotten serious, I could have been ready to get married at 17.
But all of the points you bring up are valid reasons to make a younger graduate wait a few extra months to get married.
Not to mention that getting married right out of high school hasn’t been a widely successful life choice for a few generations now. It mostly worked up until my parents’ generation, but that was probably more to do with cultural expectations and legal barriers to divorce. None of my late GenX friends who did it stayed with their spouses for more than a few years.
Well project 2025 plans to undo child marriage laws. So they don’t want to pass a law they will have to undo later (from Republicans perspective).
project 2025 plans to undo child marriage laws.
I’m pretty familiar with Project 2025, but I don’t recall that. The actual Project 2025 manifesto, 🤢 Mandate for Leadership 🤮 mentions marriage in a number of ways, including same-sex and even interracial marriage, but there’s nothing in it about child marriage at all that I know of or can find, just a lot of self-righteous hyperbole about cis-het marriage and the family unit being the root of all good, blah blah blah.
I just checked it again to be sure, and yeah, marriage is not ever mentioned adjacent to anything regarding the age of the participants.
I’m not trying to challenge you, they’re guilty of almost everything they’ve ever been accused of and far more that’s even worse, but can you tell me where you got that from? Because if they’re going to start this too I’d like to know more about it.
Ah I think I’m misremembering where I got that from. Maybe heritage foundation. I tried googling but I can’t find the source. I watched some of their “training” videos.
I’m sure I saw something where there was a plan to lower age of marriage for girls. Maybe it was just from a few nutty conservatives. But I was pretty sure there was something in there about trying to get girls to have babies while still teenagers. And being religious, the girls need to be wed.
Sorry I can’t find any credible source so I can only assume I’m mixed up or I heard it from an un-credible source and can’t remember.
Only thing I found was a few stories on nutty conservatives.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/missouri-mike-moon-defends-child-marriage_n_64372e01e4b0ac40918962ff
No, that’s great. It’s the difference between actual policy initiative, which will get real tax dollars and resources thrown behind it, and just something the average MAGA christofascists want, which was never a big secret. This is a relief. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer.
they buried an important word in the headline: PUBLIC opposition.
Am I the only one who thinks this is not such a big deal? The article says child marriage is already prohibited except a “Romeo and Juliet” provision
Senate Bill 341 would have ended a loophole letting 17-year-olds marry legal adults up to four years older than them with court approval
Someone of any age can marry an 18 year old, but if you want to marry a 17 year old you better be close in age and get a court to approve? That already prohibits child marriage while being flexible in limited circumstances. The bill would have only removed the flexibility.
You could certainly argue it’s not limited enough or I don’t know if courts are too quick to approve, but it’s not like child marriage is wide open
So i’m really confused. SB341 initially passed in the state senate with a small portion voting for it, and was sent to the judicial committee. The house version, HB670 was sent directly to judicial. I don’t see an action that says this is dead (but going to committee is a common pathway to let bills die without any press or fanfare. Extremely common for things that the population wants but the politicians do not want to die this way.)
Almost all of the sponsors are democrats, 24 of 43 total. Only 6 republicans sponsored this of 89 in total, so clearly it’s not a big priority for R.
https://legiscan.com/OH/votes/SB341/2025 / https://legiscan.com/OH/bill/HB670/2025
it’s not a big priority for R.
If Republicans have one priority, it’s fucking children.
How about instead of being baffled you just go ASK the people who voted against it why? It’s not like it’s a secret ballot or anything…
wdym, ballots are usually secret
It’s amazing how Republicans continually do the things that highlight their passion for youth genitalia. This could have been the easiest win to try and save face for all of the shit going in, and they just doubled down. There really is no excusing that if you’re a Republican you are on team pedophile. It was already clear in their support for Trump, opposition to releasing the Epstein files, and how seemingly every politician busted for CP is Republican, but they can’t even do the most basic, publicly visible thing to not further perpetuate the statistically backed stereotype.
It’s literally any day now before they just become mask off about it. Like they have about the two tiered justice system
Golly I guess the resistance to it was also bipartisan huh
