Holeeee fuck. I mean I know Iranian leadership is intensely conservative and traditional, but shittttttt. Do they actually still give whippings as legal punishment?? This will be enforced and she will actually get lashes like it’s 1840s Mississippi??
I think it’s pretty easy to say the following actually:
Iran fucking sucks and is ass backwards politically. However, the US is beyond wrong in this conflict and is clearly the problem. The US has it wrong and needs to stop.
The problem is, the first part doesn’t really need to be said since we all know this shit is evil. However, so many people think calling out the US doing war crimes is some open ended support of Irans politics.
That’s all I’m saying. As an American, should I be doing everything in my power to stop this evil administration, or should I take a callow stance of “I support Iran” and do nothing? I think I’m seeing a lot of the latter, and it bothers me.
How about I support the side that was attacked first with massive terror bombing campaigns against civilian targets that responded with missile attacks that almost entirely focused on military targets.
Seriously. America started the war by double tapping a girls school intentionally. Almost 200 girls between 9-12 were murdered in that terrorist bombing attack.
And I use the word intentionally as even fucking Google maps knew it was a girls school. First strike packages are the most carefully researched and selected targets in any war.
One side committed the war crime of perfidy during negotions, assassinated the pope of the Muslims, and murdered 200 Iranian schoolgirls on the first day. You’re not going to pick a side?
Photographs weren’t exactly common 160 years ago, hence the difficulty.
If you can find an image of american slavery that depicts the whips used in use, I welcome it (well kinda, I’d much prefer a non-graphic image of what’s used in Iran, though I couldn’t find that either). Otherwise this is the only relevant image I could find.
Weird sources. Who has killed more people through whipping?
Edit: funny how the Iranian whipping victim was nsfw, yet you chose a sfw whipping victim from the Americans, despite them whipping hundreds of thousands of people to death.
Amnesty international and CARLI are about as reputable as sources can get.
There are no stats that* answer that, from Iran or the atlantic slave trade.
Unless that link is broken, that image depicts an american whip, not a whipping victim. edit: If you mean why didn’t I include photos of an american slavery whipping victim, there are no photographs of slave punishment I could find that have a legible image of the whip, which is the important info here. Photography 160 years ago was not great at capturing motion.
there were approximately 10 million slaves in the US, total. Although I can’t find exact numbers, if we go by the reasonable estimates from clrn we can see that between 1 in 20 to 1 in 11 slaves died of the euphemistic “conditions of slavery”, so it would be pretty damned impressive for the US to have whipped “hundreds of thousands” of people to death - certainly some were, and even more were simply beaten to death or chained and starved, but please stop making up bullshit about historical tragidies to further your own political narrative.
Studies suggest an excess mortality of 15-20% due to conditions directly related to enslavement. If we apply this mortality rate to the estimated 3-4 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas, we arrive at an estimated 450,000 to 800,000 deaths.
It’s an extremely famous image - but one that does not show the whip that was used, which was the whole point.
Those are scars from someone with keloid disorder, which visually appear far more severe but given he is not dead were likely done with the same instrument as I showed above.
If you can find a relevant image from american slavery, or a non graphic image of the whips used in iranian corporal punishment, I welcome it! I looked quite hard and could find neither. Until then, please keep in mind I’m not trying to make the point you’re implying I’m trying to make.
Holeeee fuck. I mean I know Iranian leadership is intensely conservative and traditional, but shittttttt. Do they actually still give whippings as legal punishment?? This will be enforced and she will actually get lashes like it’s 1840s Mississippi??
U$A tortures thousands of people in solitary confinement, etc.
TBH I would rather take 100 lashes than be locked in a box for decades.
There was an Iranian football player who spoke out a while back and they basically said, “do that again and we’ll kill your family.”
Their Lego shit is pretty on point but they’re seriously not good dudes.
Imagine being so shitty that the Iranian government are the good guys. Makes you think.
Imagine instead seeing a conflict and not rushing to pick a side.
I think it’s pretty easy to say the following actually:
Iran fucking sucks and is ass backwards politically. However, the US is beyond wrong in this conflict and is clearly the problem. The US has it wrong and needs to stop.
The problem is, the first part doesn’t really need to be said since we all know this shit is evil. However, so many people think calling out the US doing war crimes is some open ended support of Irans politics.
That’s all I’m saying. As an American, should I be doing everything in my power to stop this evil administration, or should I take a callow stance of “I support Iran” and do nothing? I think I’m seeing a lot of the latter, and it bothers me.
How about I support the side that was attacked first with massive terror bombing campaigns against civilian targets that responded with missile attacks that almost entirely focused on military targets.
Seriously. America started the war by double tapping a girls school intentionally. Almost 200 girls between 9-12 were murdered in that terrorist bombing attack.
And I use the word intentionally as even fucking Google maps knew it was a girls school. First strike packages are the most carefully researched and selected targets in any war.
One side committed the war crime of perfidy during negotions, assassinated the pope of the Muslims, and murdered 200 Iranian schoolgirls on the first day. You’re not going to pick a side?
It’s impossible to bomb Iran back to the stone age. They’re already there.
No, they don’t whip them like the Americans whipped their slaves. 74 lashes would be unsurvivable with a bull whip, a la Americana
I’m amazed with the way you can so confidently state such BS…
American slave whip:
source
Iranian whipping footage (Graphic, NSFL):
They use exactly the same implement.
Where is the graphic depiction of american slavery? Can only find that for Iran?
Photographs weren’t exactly common 160 years ago, hence the difficulty.
If you can find an image of american slavery that depicts the whips used in use, I welcome it (well kinda, I’d much prefer a non-graphic image of what’s used in Iran, though I couldn’t find that either). Otherwise this is the only relevant image I could find.
(edit: spelling)
Weird sources. Who has killed more people through whipping?
Edit: funny how the Iranian whipping victim was nsfw, yet you chose a sfw whipping victim from the Americans, despite them whipping hundreds of thousands of people to death.
Amnesty international and CARLI are about as reputable as sources can get.
There are no stats that* answer that, from Iran or the atlantic slave trade.
Unless that link is broken, that image depicts an american whip, not a whipping victim. edit: If you mean why didn’t I include photos of an american slavery whipping victim, there are no photographs of slave punishment I could find that have a legible image of the whip, which is the important info here. Photography 160 years ago was not great at capturing motion.
there were approximately 10 million slaves in the US, total. Although I can’t find exact numbers, if we go by the reasonable estimates from clrn we can see that between 1 in 20 to 1 in 11 slaves died of the euphemistic “conditions of slavery”, so it would be pretty damned impressive for the US to have whipped “hundreds of thousands” of people to death - certainly some were, and even more were simply beaten to death or chained and starved, but please stop making up bullshit about historical tragidies to further your own political narrative.
Literally took me 10 seconds. It’s obviously far worse than the red marks in your photo. That’s why you didn’t post. Be real.
https://www.npca.org/articles/10673-parks-group-demands-truth-history-of-slavery-cannot-be-erased-from-our
It’s an extremely famous image - but one that does not show the whip that was used, which was the whole point.
Those are scars from someone with keloid disorder, which visually appear far more severe but given he is not dead were likely done with the same instrument as I showed above.
If you can find a relevant image from american slavery, or a non graphic image of the whips used in iranian corporal punishment, I welcome it! I looked quite hard and could find neither. Until then, please keep in mind I’m not trying to make the point you’re implying I’m trying to make.