The Kingdom of Israel existed there up until 720 BCE. Israelis and Jews lived in that area effectively “always”, just like the Palestinians. Returning “land back to all Native peoples” would mean exactly what we did - establishing a Palestine AND an Israel.
What’s missing right now is the UN to get off its arse and ensure that they remain separate, without Israel encroaching on Palestinian land.
They want to be separated. Palestinian nationalism grew extensively in the 1930s, there was unrest and a civil war. Palestinians want to have their own nation, just like the Israelis do.
It ended is existence in 720 BCE. Current State of Israel has no relation to it other than name. Majority of the Jews staying there today are Europeans.
Majority of Jews are Europeans because they got kicked out of their home in the 15th-16th century.
But now we have a conundrum! You’re saying that “State of Israel has no relation to it other than name”, and that is - from what I understand - your argument towards there being no Israel as the solution to the issues, right?
But that means Palestine should be eliminated too considering it never existed as a nation at all in the entire history of humanity.
So, which is it? Are we keeping your methodology and giving back the entire territory to Iran, or are we agreeing that it’s stupid fucking methodology?
Palestinians are also Arabs. Jews have been staying there peacefully since millennia. Both can share a single nation with equal or proportional representation.
Mandatory Palestine was never peaceful due to nationalists (both Zionist and Palestinian) fighting the British. Even if the British weren’t a part of the equation, the rise of Zionism and Palestinian nationalism would make co-existence impossible, as exemplified by the 1947 fights and the 1948 civil war.
Ah, so we now need to start doing genetic check-ups? How many of the Palestinians still have Persian DNA, considering the land historically belonged to Persia?
Also: you’re wrong. Israelis have very significant percentage of Near Easter and Middle Eastern DNA.
Literally says nothing about Israeli Jewish populations, just Jews in general. Moot fucking point. And if your ancestors left 2x thousand years ago you have literally 0 claim to the land.
Are you referring to the Babylonian Exile? Perhaps it’s worth mentioning why they left? Your oversimplification is not helping your position, which appears to support genocide.
It’s then especially hypocritical that you attack anybody who comes with any nuance by calling them a Nazi.
The Kingdom of Israel existed there up until 720 BCE. Israelis and Jews lived in that area effectively “always”, just like the Palestinians. Returning “land back to all Native peoples” would mean exactly what we did - establishing a Palestine AND an Israel.
What’s missing right now is the UN to get off its arse and ensure that they remain separate, without Israel encroaching on Palestinian land.
Why separate them? bring Kanaan back and if the Jews don’t like it they can go farming in the hills again.
They want to be separated. Palestinian nationalism grew extensively in the 1930s, there was unrest and a civil war. Palestinians want to have their own nation, just like the Israelis do.
It ended is existence in 720 BCE. Current State of Israel has no relation to it other than name. Majority of the Jews staying there today are Europeans.
Majority of Jews are Europeans because they got kicked out of their home in the 15th-16th century.
But now we have a conundrum! You’re saying that “State of Israel has no relation to it other than name”, and that is - from what I understand - your argument towards there being no Israel as the solution to the issues, right?
But that means Palestine should be eliminated too considering it never existed as a nation at all in the entire history of humanity.
So, which is it? Are we keeping your methodology and giving back the entire territory to Iran, or are we agreeing that it’s stupid fucking methodology?
Give it to Arabs simple.
This genius solved the Middle East conflict that has been going on for over 3,000 years.
So afraid to try that you ridicule it with quips.
Which Arabs? Lebanese? Egyptian? Jordanian? Syrian? Make it an Iranian exclave?
And what do you do with the Palestinians and Israelis already living there? Genocide both groups? That’s your solution?
Palestinians are also Arabs. Jews have been staying there peacefully since millennia. Both can share a single nation with equal or proportional representation.
Yeah, but neither wants that, so how do you solve it?
Go back to the status before 1948 when both of them were existing peacefully.
Mandatory Palestine was never peaceful due to nationalists (both Zionist and Palestinian) fighting the British. Even if the British weren’t a part of the equation, the rise of Zionism and Palestinian nationalism would make co-existence impossible, as exemplified by the 1947 fights and the 1948 civil war.
Israelis are fucking genetic Europeans they have no right to that land.
Ah, so we now need to start doing genetic check-ups? How many of the Palestinians still have Persian DNA, considering the land historically belonged to Persia?
Also: you’re wrong. Israelis have very significant percentage of Near Easter and Middle Eastern DNA.
Literally says nothing about Israeli Jewish populations, just Jews in general. Moot fucking point. And if your ancestors left 2x thousand years ago you have literally 0 claim to the land.
Are you referring to the Babylonian Exile? Perhaps it’s worth mentioning why they left? Your oversimplification is not helping your position, which appears to support genocide.
It’s then especially hypocritical that you attack anybody who comes with any nuance by calling them a Nazi.
What if your ancestors got forced out 500 years ago? Got claim then?