• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    The amount of alcoholics in comment sections like this is crazy.

    Half of the people are basically saying “I’d rather die that stop alcohol”, the other half tries to cope by saying that all of these things about the dangers of alcohol are either false or exaggerated.

    Even the crazy meat lovers are not that extreme.

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      9 days ago

      This isn’t surprising given how rooted alcohol is in our culture. A social lubricant they often call it. I think peer pressure was the hardest thing I had to deal with when I quit.

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      9 days ago

      Are you referring to the comments ITT or the comments on the linked post? I read through all of the comments here and only saw one or two comments that seemed to line up with your implications.

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      8 days ago

      Even the crazy meat lovers are not that extreme.

      You rang? We don’t love meat - we love being healthy.

      There are many parallels between the addiction of alcohol and carbohydrates, we are very sympathetic to anyone who struggles with addiction.

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        8 days ago

        Cancer is rarely healthy but sure. And I’m not sure why carbs are suddenly in the middle.

        Also I’m pretty sure the animals that produce the meat would say that it’s not all about health, but well…

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          8 days ago

          Cancer is rarely healthy but sure.

          Cancer is not a result of meat consumption - https://discuss.online/post/41701240

          And I’m not sure why carbs are suddenly in the middle.

          Carbohydrate consumption has skyrocketed in the last 100 years, along with the rises in chronic diseases

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            8 days ago

            Yeah you’re typically the kind of case that I was referencing.

            You’re denying a scientific consensus based on a couple isolated “studies”. Cherrypicking is not going to lead to any reasonable result.

            And then you just start doing some dietary whataboutism, which is something I had yet to witness. Carbs could be deadly, it wouldn’t change the fact that meat is bad for health.

            You’re typically in the second category of what I was mentioning about alcoholics here, the category that refuses to face reality and goes to delude themselves into even believing the opposite of reality, that their addiction is actually good for health.

            And on top of that, you conveniently ignored the part where I mention that murdering sentient beings for your personal health and comfort is a pretty immoral take. Once again, not surprised.

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                7 days ago

                Yes, but there’s no such huge body. Just a bunch of studies funded by the meat industry, versus overwhelming evidence.

                Still waiting for your comment on the morality of having a gigantic industry made to murder sentient creatures, just for the (im)possibility of a potentially slightly better health.

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                  7 days ago

                  Just a bunch of studies funded by the meat industry, versus overwhelming evidence.

                  Ahh, thanks for letting me know you didn’t actually read the references your arguing against.

                  I don’t care about your moral philosophy - I only care about health.

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                    7 days ago

                    “I don’t care about morals”, an opinion shared by the greatest people in the world.

                    I don’t think I have to prove my point any further, you’ve done a great job of proving that you can’t even be a decent human being, so reason is obviously far out of your reach.

                    It’s weird that so many people that would only fit on twitter or facebook end up here… Did you get banned out of both and found lemmy mentioned somewhere?

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      8 days ago

      Crazy meat lovers most certainly are that extreme. Addicts are at least a bit more likely to admit they have a problem.