Boy, that makes you wonder.

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      you will notice I said got us to destroy our own democracy. not that he did. he provided the impetus and excuse. its not like we were not warned. “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

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        I like that quote, but I think you didn’t have liberty just were allowed to feel like you have it. Bin Laden didn’t change much, the times did, when it became normal for the rich to say “suck it up”.

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          I think we have. Its a line and absolute liberty is basically might makes right. Its about having a level playing field and not trodding on individual rights. We were generally in an expansion of rights before 911 and it gave a massive excuse to the anti rights folk.