He added that physical and psychological damages “inflicted on each individual of the Iranian nation in the 2nd and 3rd imposed wars, from child killings and war crimes in Minab and Lamerd to attacks on medical centres, is each a legal file that must be pursued in both domestic and international courts.”
He further stated that from the “murder” of newborns and the elderly to the assassination of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “each is a file among thousands of major legal cases that must be earnestly pursued in domestic and international courts”.
“What is definite is that these criminals must be seized by the collar and brought to justice for their criminal deeds,” he asserted.
Never in my life could I have expected to agree with the Iranian government. But, on this specific issue? I do. There needs to be accountability for this.
Fair. But let’s not forget all of their own people they killed. Trump, Netanyahu and Khamenei should all share a cell in The Hague.
It was crazy to hear US news reporting “Iran has killed 30k, 50k, 90k of their own people!!” based on unnamed sources and Facebook memes. Meanwhile, the journalists on the ground in Gaza reporting on the genocide were systematically assassinated by the Israeli government, while hospitals were obliterated, and communications severed. And the US national media response became “information is unreliable so we’re just not going to say a number anymore”.
I wonder how many Iranians killed during the current US/Israel air raids and infrastructure annihilation will be retroactively counted as “The Iranians killed themselves”, once American journalists finally make their way back into the country.
The Americans think that their propaganda still works. fuck that disgusting rogue empire.
Death to America!
It’s definitely losing it’s grip. But genuinely frightening to see how many people will still fall back on “Yeah, but I’m glad they’re killing the correct kind of foreigners this time”. As soon as Democrats retake the White House, your head is going to spin to see how many people enthusiastically support more bombings.
More accurately, you’ll notice all the currently anti- people oddly quiet, none of the news reporting it (outside of extreme edge cases), and a relatively few people loudly and enthusiastically supporting it.
Most “don’t” support it, but keep their heads down when it’s a D doing it, and scream endlessly when it’s an R doing the same exact thing.
And vice versa. The US is really showing the flaws of a two party system right now.
You don’t need to wonder how many Iranians died during the war, because Iran keeps very good track of these. However, they try their best to hide how many were killed of their own citizens during January, and there there will probably never be an accurate figure for that, only estimates.
Like in the Lahaina Fire on Maui, right. They counted the people they can identify in the death toll. But the homeless are left out of the official count of the dead. That town was full of homeless camps in the bushes. The real number of dead could be 10x the official number.
Where did you get this information?
Pulled out of a certain personal orifice?!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I have a friend in Iran, his cousin died in the protests and his body was tagged in the 10,000’s, and he was far from the last to die. Most Iranians hate their, in my friends words, fascist and theocratic government and they absolutely did massacre the protesters.
All of you morons saying its just western propaganda without speaking to actual Iranians need to shut the fuck up. You trying to deny what happened to the protesters is just like fucking zionists trying to deny what is happening to Palestine.
Does that make the war against them just? Fuck no, America invaded to create a smokescreen for the Epstein files. But you trying to wave away what happened to the protesters is spitting on their graves.
Channel 14’s Tamir Morag says arms from ‘foreign actors’ let protesters kill hundreds of officers; Iranian FM: ‘Trump should now know exactly where to go to stop killings’
I actually have a friend from elementary school who was killed by an Iraqi IED. Really sad, but also… he should have been going to college, not getting in shootouts with ex-Ba’athist insurgents on the other side of the planet.
Sure mate, I believe you. Also, I’m the queen of Sheeba, trust me. (On the internet anybody can “be” whatever they want)
That said, I misread the comments I replied to as being about the number of dead in the war, which doesn’t make sense for Iran to hide hence my reply.
If the poster I replied to meant it as “have you really thought about where the ‘information’ you think you know originally came from”, then they made a good point - for Iran, just like for China, Iraq before that and countless others, the information space is so heavilly polluted at all levels (from Social Media to traditional Press) by American propaganda that it’s hard to really know the extent of what has and is happening, unless one has direct connections inside Iran (which you claim to, but again for exactly the reason I gave about Propaganda, I can’t just directly trust “claims from random poster who for all I know might not even be a human” as being true).
For example, for what happened to the Uyghurs in China the best and most trustworthy info that we have is indirect and comes from Chinese Official numbers: the fall in birth rates in the region they’re the majority by comparison with other Chinese regions, which doesn’t tell us exactly what’s happened by does tell us that something bad enough happened that people refrained from having children there from 2017 and for a number of years.
Unfortunatly the slimy and excessive propaganda pushed out by America and American actors means that the information space in the West is very poluted so you can’t just take at face values any claims about bad things done by states which the US sees as adversaries.
We don’t want them in Europe, build a cell somewhere else!
I’ll put the cell in my house if it gets it done.
I’m sure the forever loop of “what’s new pussycat” will be a winner
Make sure you get a few “it’s not unusual”s in there to give them hope
I rather have them here to be honest, or somewhere with equally little corruption and equally little political instability. They sure can raise my taxes if that keeps these 3 jailed.
The vote ratio on your comment is alarming and tells a lot about the Lemmy user base.
Oh yeah, there’s not a lot of valuable discussion to be had here. It’s mostly state actors and college kids that just read about the subject for the first time and think they’re experts. And fuckin half the comments at least are clearly written by an LLM. If reddit didn’t ban you for calling nazis nazis I’d still be there. Redditors on average seem much more educated than lemmings in my experience, you always see the most dogshit takes upvoted here.
I am not too sure about this. I doubt half of the comments is written by LLMs. I just think Lemmy is much more left-leaning than reddit was. Israel was always polarizing in the left, since Oct 7 this has become much worse. I really miss a critical view on the conflicts here. I feel people need to divide every topic into 2 contrary views, it is always black or white. The enemy of my enemy is my friend - so they rather sympathize with Iran than with Israel or the west™ in general. I don’t think this has to do with education, and I highly doubt the average education of redditors is very high. Reddit is mainstream nowadays, the user base is basically old Facebook minus the boomers.
Honestly, I would prefer Lemmy every day over reddit, because I believe in a free user controlled space without big corp. However I instance blocked lemmy.ml and always think twice before engaging in a political discussion. But sometimes, like in this case, people are so blind and stupid that I can’t shut my mouth.
Unrelated to topic, but i only see total up/downvotes. How do i get ratio? Switch viewer or change setting?
I guess it depends on the viewer/app you are using to access the Threadiverse. I use the Voyager mobile app on Android, but the setting should be available on iOS and the web viewer too.
Appearance > Other > Display Votes > Separate
Thanks, i’m using Voyager on Android too and thoroughly checked general settings but appearantly didn’t even think to look at appearance settings, oops.
I agree the settings categories are a bit confusing
I’ll never understand how people can call themselves leftists and then simp for the likes of Khamenei.
I bet there’s tons of stuff you struggle to understand on a daily basis.
Indeed there are. Maybe that’s because I don’t see the world through the lens of an ideology, that’s entirely detached from reality.
Do you understand the idea of critical support? Do you understand that America is the global hegemon and their actions in Iran are war crimes? Leftists don’t support Iran because of their structure of government, its because America is the bad guy, and has been since the end of WWII.
Do you also “critically support” Jeffrey Dahmer because he murdered Americans?
Do you equate Jeffrey Dahmer, a single man with mental illness, to a nation state defending itself from the largest military to ever exist, which is run by genocidal pedophiles?
Are you 12?
My genocidal pedophiles are better than your genocidal pedophiles!
Also every american presidents and every american politicians who allowed weapons and aid to israel , all the western politicians who did the same , the arab traitors collaborating with the enemy and every single isrseli politicians and prime ministers.
I want everyone in jail, I want it everywhere, I want it now.