No, not even close. Your attempt to sidestep the obvious hypocrisy people are displaying in this comment thread isn’t going to work.
This thread is not about America being a shithole. It’s about America falling behind the rest of the world, which it is in several important ways, and that’s extremely concerning, as I’ve stated in previous comments. America is objectively not a shithole. You’d know that if you actually lived here. The United States still has an extremely high standard of living.
And even if this were about America being a shithole, I still have the right, and perhaps even a duty, to defend my home and the people I love.
But let’s address your claims.
“No, you literally do, in most states. Honestly, if you deny reality this much more, I’m just not gonna entertain your bullshit.”
The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, but it expressly preserves an exception allowing involuntary labor as punishment for a crime following a lawful conviction. Whether prison labor should be characterized as “slavery” is a matter of legal interpretation and political debate.
There is a significant difference between the antebellum system of chattel slavery and requiring convicted prisoners to perform labor as part of their sentence. Prisoners also retain a multitude of constitutional and legal rights. The unacceptable conditions found in some American prisons are a separate issue, and one I’ve already acknowledged.
What you’re doing is deliberately erasing that distinction. If you’re going to call every form of compulsory prison labor “slavery” without acknowledging the legal and historical nuance, then you’re either arguing in bad faith or you’re uninformed. Possibly both.
Sure, just dismiss everything I’ve said. Continue making unsubstantiated blanket statements that you probably only believe because of your own state’s media, then end the conversation when you’re challenged.
You’ve been a disingenuous, bad-faith participant from the beginning. You’re not interested in evidence or discussion, you just want to reinforce your own confirmation bias. At this point, you’re about as useful as a fart in the wind.
No, not even close. Your attempt to sidestep the obvious hypocrisy people are displaying in this comment thread isn’t going to work.
This thread is not about America being a shithole. It’s about America falling behind the rest of the world, which it is in several important ways, and that’s extremely concerning, as I’ve stated in previous comments. America is objectively not a shithole. You’d know that if you actually lived here. The United States still has an extremely high standard of living.
And even if this were about America being a shithole, I still have the right, and perhaps even a duty, to defend my home and the people I love.
But let’s address your claims.
The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, but it expressly preserves an exception allowing involuntary labor as punishment for a crime following a lawful conviction. Whether prison labor should be characterized as “slavery” is a matter of legal interpretation and political debate.
There is a significant difference between the antebellum system of chattel slavery and requiring convicted prisoners to perform labor as part of their sentence. Prisoners also retain a multitude of constitutional and legal rights. The unacceptable conditions found in some American prisons are a separate issue, and one I’ve already acknowledged.
What you’re doing is deliberately erasing that distinction. If you’re going to call every form of compulsory prison labor “slavery” without acknowledging the legal and historical nuance, then you’re either arguing in bad faith or you’re uninformed. Possibly both.
Fuck off, if you’re going to continue to deny reality I’m not going to bother reading your drivel. We’re done here.
Sure, just dismiss everything I’ve said. Continue making unsubstantiated blanket statements that you probably only believe because of your own state’s media, then end the conversation when you’re challenged.
You’ve been a disingenuous, bad-faith participant from the beginning. You’re not interested in evidence or discussion, you just want to reinforce your own confirmation bias. At this point, you’re about as useful as a fart in the wind.
I’m not denying reality. You’re just making a blanket statement that slavery is legal in America. It isn’t. Period.
If you’re saying the slavery is legal in America, you are completely wrong. I’ve explained that to you at length.
You want to stand on your soapbox and preach do it somewhere else.